Oh, I have already read that. Just thought you, personally had some information to add to that. And Stunt0Rider I have addressed your question in my previous posts.....(4 dr cars were designed with the priority being 4 drs, and then second is performance) That is the nature of a 4 dr vehicle. Again if there were no such things as kids and groceries there would be no 4 dr cars, only station wagons, mini vans, and 2 dr sports cars.