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    Quote Originally Posted by SgtMarshal View Post
    One thing I didn't see in this sticky is which injectors to use for E85 with a turbo. I have 42's already but the turbo is going on within the next few months and don't want to buy the wrong ones.
    80s minimum, and you'll need a pump to keep up.
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    I second 80's. That turbo and corn is gonna make it want to eat.
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    Depending on how much power you want to make, I'd even think about 95's.


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    it's not going to be a big build. I don't want to break the transmission. 375 is about all im going to be after.
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    Ah, yeah 80's would be fine then.


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    I maxed out 60# like right away, got 95# from John at Fuel Injector Connection
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    Quote Originally Posted by SgtMarshal View Post
    it's not going to be a big build. I don't want to break the transmission. 375 is about all im going to be after.
    I bet you could even make that with corn on 60's
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADrugDealer View Post
    I maxed out 60# like right away, got 95# from John at Fuel Injector Connection
    how much boost were you making, and wasn't the turbo like huge?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SgtMarshal View Post
    One thing I didn't see in this sticky is which injectors to use for E85 with a turbo. I have 42's already but the turbo is going on within the next few months and don't want to buy the wrong ones.
    42s are probably a tad small for turbo unless you have very low power goals. 60lb injectors can take you to 500 and beyond on e85.
    "Lets just throw more boost at it and see what happens" -Frosty
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frosty View Post
    42s are probably a tad small for turbo unless you have very low power goals. 60lb injectors can take you to 500 and beyond on e85.
    That would depend a lot on the setup. My car would not be able to make 500 on e85
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    "Change it to 1.25 for all 6 cylinders if your tuning for winter blend E85 or 1.3 for summer blend. If you want you can shoot for the middle at 1.225"

    The middle would be 1.275, not 1.225, right?

    Also in DHP this is called "Injector Skew Percent" but there is also "Rough Idle Injector Skew Percent" would that possibly be needing changed too?
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    Who here is running sub 2.8" pulleys on E85? What valve train mods do you have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by charlieRobinson View Post
    Who here is running sub 2.8" pulleys on E85? What valve train mods do you have?
    2.7 with a 10 percent over drive balancer...xp, 130#, double roller, ls7 lifters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlieRobinson View Post
    Who here is running sub 2.8" pulleys on E85? What valve train mods do you have?
    Rockers, intercooler, stock cam....

    WOT is ~.88 lambda and have run up to 21* of timing with that too but I usually stick around the 18* area. If its cooler Ill crank it up a little while Im driving around for ****s and giggles.
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    I sh!t canned the turbo idea and am running a 40% blend of E85 mixed with 91. I have been running this blend for a few weeks now. I have the maf adjusted, and am running an 11.5 afr at wot. so far the only change I have done is to the maf table. I'm thinking about raising the blend to 50% ethanol. should I stick with the 11.5 afr, or can I go richer to benefit from the cooling of ethanol? also, what would I change in the tune for the 50% blend? I keep the car parked in the garage and I haven't had much of a starting issue, except when the car is warmed up. it has been like this for several years. the car starts every time, but when it's warmed up, I have to give it gas to start. it is totally unrelated to running the 40% blend of ethanol.
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    Isn't that kind of a hassle to fill the car up twice at the pump?
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    I bought a few gas cans worth of e85 because the pump with e85 is a couple hours away. so I just bring the gas can with me when I fill my tank.
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    Do you have a pickup? You should buy one of those in bed fuel tanks that looks like a tool box, and fill that up with e85.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GTPpower View Post
    Do you have a pickup? You should buy one of those in bed fuel tanks that looks like a tool box, and fill that up with e85.
    no truck, or I would just buy a barrel of the stuff. I would consider one of those in bed fuel tanks as well.
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    More fuel isn't going to help you, going richer is the opposite of what I would want to do with E85.

    E85 is great at taking away heat, you should be able to lean the mixture out a little bit using E85.

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