Bad to disable torque management?

**97AutoXVette** · 03-25-2014

I know that I can disable both "Abuse Mode" as well as "Torque Reduction".

Is this recommended to maintain good power and not be limited? Assuming that I will not be a fool on/off the gas pedal

**GTPpower** · 03-25-2014

I don't recommend disabling it completely. It's a good idea to get rid of all the fuel cuts that GM built in. It's usually ok to max out the torque limiting tables as well, but you should still leave some in for power reduction during shifts, as you will give you chance a much better shot at lasting longer under higher power.

**97AutoXVette** · 03-25-2014

I guess I can just increase the torque limit allowed for a given gear/rpm to accomplish the similar goal. Don't want to go too crazy and break something and regret it.

**Fivefingerdeathpunch** · 03-25-2014

I turn off the engine TM, but leave the trans TM on. I don't touch anything trans related because it's a stock transmission.

**LMNOParis** · 03-13-2017

I know I'm bringing back a thread from 3 years ago, but I'm gathering the nerve to tune my own and I'm not sure if I will easily see the difference between engine TM and transmission TM. All of the write ups say "turn off torque management," but that seems to be a really bad idea. I'm not willing to sacrifice transmission life for a barely noticeable increase in power. Thoughts?

**Fivefingerdeathpunch** · 03-13-2017

Without knowing what software you are using, just stick to the engine side torque mngt stuff. There aren't many tables to touch, I only raise the limits to prevent the computer from pulling fuel/timing out.

**LMNOParis** · 03-13-2017

I think I'll be going DHP. I hope once I use the interface that some of this becomes more clear. It's pretty difficult to know if I'll be able to get far with DHP, or if I'm better off biting the HPT bullet. Thanks for the response.

**Fivefingerdeathpunch** · 03-13-2017

If all you ever planned to do was mess with 3800's, the DHP software is a far cheaper buy in price. The downside is lack of support (aka none), can only be used on those specific vehicles (3100, 3400, 3800) and for some not as easy to understand.

HP Tizzles has far more support, is always being updated and someone can always help you troubleshoot problems with the software if needed. If you planned to branch out and do other GM cars/trucks or even some ford/dodge stuff you can tune tons of other vehicles with HPT.

**GTPpower** · 03-13-2017

Hpt is easier to disable torque management, but either is still very easy.

What mods do you have, or will you have when it comes time to tune?

**LMNOParis** · 03-13-2017

Originally Posted by Fivefingerdeathpunch

If all you ever planned to do was mess with 3800's, the DHP software is a far cheaper buy in price. The downside is lack of support (aka none), can only be used on those specific vehicles (3100, 3400, 3800) and for some not as easy to understand.

HP Tizzles has far more support, is always being updated and someone can always help you troubleshoot problems with the software if needed. If you planned to branch out and do other GM cars/trucks or even some ford/dodge stuff you can tune tons of other vehicles with HPT.

Thanks for the input. I don't mind putting a little more effort into something if the only thing I need is a piece of hardware. I don't think I see myself owning any car that I might have the itch to tune other than W-bodies, but then again, never know if I'll get tempted to get an LS1 or LS2 some day....

**LMNOParis** · 03-13-2017

Originally Posted by GTPpower

Hpt is easier to disable torque management, but either is still very easy.

What mods do you have, or will you have when it comes time to tune?

Speed Daddy headers (installed a week ago), 3.4 pulley (just got back in from the garage after finishing this one), 180 deg t-stat. I think my next mod would be 1.9 rockers with LS6 springs if I get the bug again. I also suspect that would lead to a hardened tranny not long after :P

**Scottydoggs** · 03-13-2017

a cam is what will take out your input shaft, i got rockers ic and a 3.2. no fear yet.

**ItHurtz** · 03-13-2017

built trans for a 3.4 LOL

**LMNOParis** · 03-13-2017

Originally Posted by ItHurtz

built trans for a 3.4 LOL

I had a Regal GS that needed two tranny rebuilds, so it isn't a crazy concern. I'd like to be able to IC and lower pulley sizes without a tranny. If I don't have to worry at that point, it's going to be a different ballgame.

**ItHurtz** · 03-13-2017

a rebuild and snapped input are two different animals.

**Scottydoggs** · 03-13-2017

oh these trannys just blow up. im on my second swap. last one just locked up, first one lost 3 rd gear.

new one is awesome

**LMNOParis** · 03-14-2017

Originally Posted by ItHurtz

a rebuild and snapped input are two different animals.

I wanted to suggest that I'd get a tranny from Triple Edge if I was already at it. Not that I'd need a hardened one for that setup. I don't know. Wishful thinking I guess.

**GTPpower** · 03-14-2017

Keep your shifts quick and soft. Your input shaft will live forever.

You aren't going to have to remove too much torque management with those mods. The computer probably will not even limit the power at that point.

**coolone** · 03-14-2017

How about providing those quick settings? Soft? Lol..

are you refering to transmission time settings? Pressures?

Don't mind me, I just hate posts that say to do something, without giving examples or information as to how to... ; )

**Fivefingerdeathpunch** · 03-14-2017

I'm guessing he is talking shift pressure's here, stock shift pressure or slightly higher is all I'd ever do on a stock transmission. Shift times I kept to .250-.300 and that was plenty quick for me.

Adding like 20-30% shift pressure and going way way down on shift time is asking for a problem someday in my eyes.