Weight Loss or Weight Gain Thread "2012"

[rodguezsciii]

Solid!

Banged out 16 handstand unbroken pushups PR a few days back.
225 for an EASY paused single on incline the other night (I've been slumming around with 95-135 for like 6 months, never got more than 185 I think)
Pulled for the first time again last night... lightning quick 365 triples (65%). Back has slight pain today, but definitely doesn't feel like I tweaked anything.
In other news, I just started rowing heavy almost every day. Might be the cause of my advances. Back's blowing up.
I might be back in the saddle.

Congrats....nothing like coming back from injury successfully....it may be set high, buy my goal by December is to be well over where I was prior to tearing my shoulder...goal at minimum is back to 1200lbs in all 3 lifts @ under 200 lbs BW like I was 3 years ago, main goal is 1350 overall weight in all 3 major lifts 200 lbs max BW...

[benner]

Put a ton of weight on with being in the hospital and recovery. Back up to about 270lbs. Want back down to 200lbs to 215lbs. Officially starting the 12 Week Kris Gethin's Hardcore Daily Video Trainer.

I've never been into diet plans other than healthy eating and this seems like the best compromise I can find for what I'm used to eating when I'm going strickly healthy. Plus I've never been one for cardio but understand I need to incorporate it to help get my energy level back up to where it was before I spent all that time in the hospital and recovering.

My wife's helping in terms of motivation in the form of extra personal favors at every 10lbs lost. Plus she'll be joining me in the gym as well to help her get into better shape (she's already pretty flawless but wants to tone up)

[SlowNA06]

Congrats....nothing like coming back from injury successfully....it may be set high, buy my goal by December is to be well over where I was prior to tearing my shoulder...goal at minimum is back to 1200lbs in all 3 lifts @ under 200 lbs BW like I was 3 years ago, main goal is 1350 overall weight in all 3 major lifts 200 lbs max BW...

Thanks man. Shoulder tears are rough. I spend half my workout popping one of mine back in, haha.
1200 is respectable at that weight.
I might be able to do that... looking like a bag of cookie dough, even if I cut to 220. I'll meet you in the middle, hah!

[theaceofspades]

Seeing some mad results saw a pic of me a couple months ago and a pic just recently. Big diff gf notices it. I can bench press her again and carry her up my 45 degree angle back yard no issues


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[SlowNA06]

"found object" training is all the rage.

[rodguezsciii]

Thanks man. Shoulder tears are rough. I spend half my workout popping one of mine back in, haha.
1200 is respectable at that weight.
I might be able to do that... looking like a bag of cookie dough, even if I cut to 220. I'll meet you in the middle, hah!

yessir...at that time I was extremely proud of myself...I reached 1210 lb total after less than 18 months of training and @ only 175 lbs BW, 11% BF...tore my shoulder when I cut down to 7% BF trying to bench twice my BW...sloppy rep, before I knew it, was too late...

"found object" training is all the rage.

I assume you mean your average "odd object" style training...a buddy of mine used to swear by it...I participated in one of his routines before, and let's just say it truly takes its toll....we moved everything from logs, sandbags, waterfilled kegs, to heavy bags and used tires....I would love to get back into it, just no room, and knowing myself would need someone else dedicated for that style routine...

[SlowNA06]

Haha, man, I've seen dudes with nothing but rocks. Jumping, squatting, throwing boulders, whatever. No-gym-no-problem for some people. I'm far too into lifting like a powerlifter because it's honestly simpler and easier for me. Nothing for me to think about, consistent measures. Strongman-like training and conditioning, on the other hand... yeah, that'll beat you up good.

[rynoman03]

I'm still working on my weight loss. I gained a bit over the winter. I'm trying to lose 10lbs in the next month before my 110mi bike race in the Flint Hills. I need to HTFU and train more!

[DirtDog]

so now my turn to get into this thread. i started going to the actual gym 2.5 months ago with a 10 year gym rat and at first, i absolutely hated the **** out of it. but i went back through my notes from then and I've almost doubled the amount of weight i can lift/bench/squat/everything. And with all of that i've lost 10ish pounds to. I'm around 170 now but am trying to bulk to 190 or 200. what kind of supplements you guys use. didn't want to go back through the thousand plus posts.
here's what i'm taking
Kacine protein right before i go to bed
gold standard protein right after workout
And I started a cycle of P6 extreme (red bottle) a week ago just for a little boost.

[ItHurtz]

food is the best supplement

[theaceofspades]

so now my turn to get into this thread. i started going to the actual gym 2.5 months ago with a 10 year gym rat and at first, i absolutely hated the **** out of it. but i went back through my notes from then and I've almost doubled the amount of weight i can lift/bench/squat/everything. And with all of that i've lost 10ish pounds to. I'm around 170 now but am trying to bulk to 190 or 200. what kind of supplements you guys use. didn't want to go back through the thousand plus posts.
here's what i'm taking
Kacine protein right before i go to bed
gold standard protein right after workout
And I started a cycle of P6 extreme (red bottle) a week ago just for a little boost.

Take a pre workout from advocare they are awesome

[SlowNA06]

You're a beginner and beginner's gains are better than the best supplement regimen - it's free, so make good use of the adaptations. Supplements will not be the key to success insomuch training, diet, and sleep will.

As far as supplements go, I spend a significant amount of time every day reading pubmed and forum information in addition to conducting my own tests - primarily because this is fun to me, not necessarily because it is productive (they are, after all, just polish/gravy, not the path itself). I think its important to fully understand what it is and why you're taking it, so if you're going to play with supplements, read everything you can get your hands on.

That being said, there's a number of easy/beginner/ridiculously well-tested, safe products that don't break the bank:
Creatine Monohydrate - it works.
Caffeine: All day err'eday.
Fish oil (lending my own expertise here on joint pain: the best deal appears to be Walmart's Spring Valley Triple Strength, 3 caps/day)
Probiotics: I use Evomuse Gut Health - this is easily the most dramatically effective supplement I've ever used.
Digestive enzymes: NOW brand - this and the probiotics will be very useful on a caloric surplus for your bulking. Eliminates farts, gurgles, bloating, and mitigates a lot of the unsavory effects of eating far too much hot sauce.

[theaceofspades]

Probiotics are awesome. I forgot about taking those I have a bottle in my medicine cabinet. But if he needed some sort of hype take a pre workput

[des19]

tried my 1 RM max on bench first time in probably 6 months I usually don't even do this...theres a reason for that...weighing at 165 pretty cut right now banged out 1 rep of 235 lbs no problem...did 240 after no problem. went to do my regular sets with 185 x8 and had this sharp pinching under my chest like I was about to tear the pec I knew if I brought down the weight it wasnt gonna be good. I had this same injury about a year ago and never thought it would come back. Gonna take 2 weeks off chest so I can at least return to regular sets. Pretty sure I strained my chest again

[rodguezsciii]

I always believe in warming up properly for chest...most ppl go 135 for a set and immediately call it a warm up and are pushing 200+ for regulars and wonder why they injure themselves...bench press when done properly is close to a full body workout...push heels for support, tighten the cheeks, squeeze the shoulders, white knuckle the bar, fill chest with air and shoot for a straight line...tuck elbows on way down and properly lock out on way up...most big timers, hold the initial lockout prior to the bar's descent, helps with heavier/low rep sets...tearing a pec muscle is no joke....

[SlowNA06]

A pec tear is luckily one of the few injuries I've never had the displeasure of experiencing. Because of my busted shoulders, I exclusively close grip my flat benching, which is probably why, in addition to what might be considered a paranoid amount of warm up reps for all pressing maneuvers.

[DirtDog]

i do take preworkout i use C4. i forgot to add that to my list.

but i also have been taking fish oil i do two caps one at night and one when i wake up.
also i just got my order of BCAA in so i'm starting on some of those to help break down all the proteins.

[SlowNA06]

i just got my order of BCAA... to help break down all the proteins.

That's not what BCAA does. That's what, primarily, protease does. BCAA is already broken protein.

[ItHurtz]

noob wasting money on supplements that wont make a visual difference without the know how, blood, sweat and tears.

[rodguezsciii]

i do take preworkout i use C4. i forgot to add that to my list.

but i also have been taking fish oil i do two caps one at night and one when i wake up.
also i just got my order of BCAA in so i'm starting on some of those to help break down all the proteins.

studies prove BCAAs help with protein synthesis, but any decent Whey Protein should contain all most would need...anything extra is usually overkill for the average lifter....if anything invest in a well rounded multi...I staple Orange Triad....