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    i guess i did know that but didnt think of it when i think of usiing and ls i think fuel injection automatically but still comes down to what i can find for the right cost

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    Top fuel funny cars on based on your "old technology." I don't see LS1 based motors making 8,000 horsepower. You can mismatch parts and still make 500 horsepower out of a BBC. ( cam too big, compression too low, etc) Carbureted v8's may not knock down the mileage an LS1 can, but they certainly still have their place.


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    LS1 in one of those cars...screw old motors with old technology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Americanmuscle13 View Post
    Top fuel funny cars on based on your "old technology." I don't see LS1 based motors making 8,000 horsepower. You can mismatch parts and still make 500 horsepower out of a BBC. ( cam too big, compression too low, etc) Carbureted v8's may not knock down the mileage an LS1 can, but they certainly still have their place.
    for someone building a 'cruiser' and not a drag car, i see zero need for a big block.
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    im considering all options but mainly being my first oldschool build im doing this one as a cruiser i mean hp isnt my first concern

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    Hard to beat a BB Chevy with decent heads with anything else for the $$$. Heads are the key, and the BB does'nt disappoint. The blocks are super beefy, even the two bolt mains, most can be bored to .100 over (allows many rebuilds). The only penalty is the weight. Any of the cars you listed will swallow a BB no problem. Hell, I've seen them put in Fiero's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeosGP View Post
    Well, I'm a fan of the Nova. 383 is nice, but the big block has more allure to it. That and a Turbo 400 and you'll be having fun.

    Yes, please join in with the other 95% of the "old school cars."
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreyGhost View Post
    Yes, please join in with the other 95% of the "old school cars."
    Hey, I got the idea out of "Generic Guy" magazine.
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    I'd love to stuff one of those into something, like an 80s Monte
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    Actually, hot rod did a nice build on a 350 with an old iron lung on it and made pretty good HP for not much $, but then again thats why most people build a GM SB. Low $ investment, good HP/$ and several different ways to build it, but 0 that haven't been done already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreyGhost View Post
    good HP/$ and several different ways to build it, but 0 that haven't been done already.
    ^-truth.
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    98 gtp sedan forest green ,S1X intense cam,Intense pcm,Magnaflow exhaust, ubend delete,TEP trans 3.29's,3.4 smoothflow mps,Dyno'd 281hp and 371ft #'s of trq at the wheels
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    That Malibu looks nice. Not crazy about the 70 Lemans. '68 and '69 had the nice nose, but I wouldn't be able to bring myself to put anything in either of those except a Pontiac powerplant - that's just me, though
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    yea i hear ya on that those were just a few cars that came up this projects going to wait till im gainfuly employed again

    98 gtp sedan forest green ,S1X intense cam,Intense pcm,Magnaflow exhaust, ubend delete,TEP trans 3.29's,3.4 smoothflow mps,Dyno'd 281hp and 371ft #'s of trq at the wheels
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    Quote Originally Posted by Americanmuscle13 View Post
    Top fuel funny cars on based on your "old technology."
    I don't know where the hell you hang out at, but if you say pro cars are using "old technology", you have no clue what you're looking at...

    Although I'm not a big Olds fan, that's the only one I'd choose, the other body styles I was never fond of.
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    69 nova blown 383 turbo 400
    1970 c10 572 bb
    70 cutlass 455 big cam


    Quote Originally Posted by TorqueAutoMotiv View Post
    Ok so the gtp is only a couple parts away from finished that menas ill get bored and i need a new toy so heres what im thinking

    Oldschool
    70-71 monte carlo
    69-71 cutlass
    69-72 nova
    67-71 chevy c10

    engine choice
    383 stroker big cam
    454 big cam
    455 if olds
    or something like a 502 or some crazy ****

    i figure ill do the engine first then trans
    then find the car to put it in
    01 GTP is3 cam 130 springs double roller 60lb injectors lq4 maf headers 4000 stall lowered
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    Sold 2001 gp gt ssm90 plog dp 3.8 208 whp 265 at the crank 14.8 1/4
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    yea more think about it I wanna go the fuel injected route (this is where people get mad) but honestly it doesnt limit me Im just holding off till im working and will have the cash and be able to do a cleaner build and not be a douche that drives a primered oldschool for years

    98 gtp sedan forest green ,S1X intense cam,Intense pcm,Magnaflow exhaust, ubend delete,TEP trans 3.29's,3.4 smoothflow mps,Dyno'd 281hp and 371ft #'s of trq at the wheels
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    Well I hang out at a couple forums, and you're a dick on both of them. The hemi design and roots blower are technology that came over out 60 years ago. Last time I checked Top Fuel cars still run a Hemispherical combustion chamber and roots blowers. Are they identicle to the original design? Hell no. But they're still based off of the original designs. Maybe you missed the "based off" in my post. My point was that the big blocks are not obsolete.

    To the OP. I have a pretty healthy 388 sbc in my project car. I wish I would've gone big block now. It depends on what power level you're looking for. If you want anything above 400 horse, you're better off going big block. A 450 horse 454 is going to be much milder than a 383 at the same power level. You'll also have much more to work with if you decide to go further with your build. You can score a 455 or 454 core for 500-600 bucks if you watch craigslist.



    Quote Originally Posted by BlownBigBlock View Post
    I don't know where the hell you hang out at, but if you say pro cars are using "old technology", you have no clue what you're looking at...

    Although I'm not a big Olds fan, that's the only one I'd choose, the other body styles I was never fond of.
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    my buddys got a built 383 with afr heads in his 65 chevy and that thing is nasty
    but the heads alone were like as much as my gtp engine build lol

    when i start ill more then likely get the motor built then build the trans then find a car to put it in

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    350 that made 390hp on dyno for $2,600.

    Ended up with 9.8 to 1 comp and can use 87 octane.

    To get high Compression by changing the pistons to Flat top pistons was $520 with millling the block for an additional $175. Compression would of went from 9.8 to 10.0 for an additional 10-15hp.

    All this info is from HOT ROD mag May 2009 PG 95.
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