Thread: intense "stage" packages

are they worth the money?

probably not. just take our advice on builds. we will save you money and make a setup more usable and better.

depends on your build and if theres a quality shop in your area that can do port work and know 3800's

The better the flow the better the performance and the better you can pick a cam and so on

Ported heads cost money thats all there is to it zzp and wbody also offer cnc heads for a little less i believe

??? Thinking he's talking about

Stage 1: pcm tune, intake, pulley, plugs
Stage 2: rockers and valvesprings.... so on and so forth as the kits get more and more


In which case, no it's not worth the money at all. Kit comes with a 3.4 MPS but doesn't mention or include the exhaust mods needed haha. I guess they just want you to blow. Unless ofcourse you are talking about their cam/head kits.. Ignore everything I just said

oh my bad i tune those bs packages out lol not worth it at all

Package is actually FAIL.

Read my Safely Modding your 3800 thread.

That is all.

for the safely modding your 3800 can that be used with newer models as well?

Originally Posted by tazyboy28

for the safely modding your 3800 can that be used with newer models as well?

In general the 04+ GenV cars can not run as small of a pulley as the 97-03 Gen3 cars with the same modifications due to the GenV being more efficient and making more power out of the box.

im talking about the stage 1-4 cam, heads, lifters etc etc packages.

Dont do it. I ordered the Stage 4 Heads and Cam package from Intense a month or so ago. Sent it all back for ZZP CNC Heads and XPZ build. Hell the 899 CNC heads are completely and i mean every nook and cranny clean. The IS4 Heads had grime still caked in corners and spray painted over. Hell in the drop down for the package I selected Rollmaster Double Roller and received a JP set. They sent a damn GM Timing Chain Damfener when i was going to be doing a Double Roller. Dont Do it. Just take my little experience and go about a better route. Hell get some heads ported cheap off the forum or take your heads in to be ported for half the price and go with say an IS2 or IS3 cam or XPZ or damn custom grind. Its all what u prefer.


INTENSE Heads and Cam Package dont save u money

Originally Posted by VictorSmalls

In general the 04+ GenV cars can not run as small of a pulley as the 97-03 Gen3 cars with the same modifications due to the GenV being more efficient and making more power out of the box.

Then how do i go about modding my GT if its not the same.
i was about to go get headers and take care of porting the supercharger etc . . .

EVERYTHING IS THE SAME...minus the pulley drop and the tuning...you have to get a 04-05 PCM to tune your car otherwise the gas gauge will read in reverse.

As for the pulley drop it is nothing but running a little larger of a pulley because of the Gen V vs. the Gen III...look at it like this...since the Gen V is more efficient than the Gen III, you don't need as much boost to make as much power...therefore it creates less heat and is less parasitic than a Gen III.

3.4" on a Gen III = 3.6" on a Gen V
3.2" on a Gen III = 3.4" on a Gen V

Follow? Everything about our cars are the same really minus those two things...

Originally Posted by bbptech

Dont do it. I ordered the Stage 4 Heads and Cam package from Intense a month or so ago. Sent it all back for ZZP CNC Heads and XPZ build. Hell the 899 CNC heads are completely and i mean every nook and cranny clean. The IS4 Heads had grime still caked in corners and spray painted over. Hell in the drop down for the package I selected Rollmaster Double Roller and received a JP set. They sent a damn GM Timing Chain Damfener when i was going to be doing a Double Roller. Dont Do it. Just take my little experience and go about a better route. Hell get some heads ported cheap off the forum or take your heads in to be ported for half the price and go with say an IS2 or IS3 cam or XPZ or damn custom grind. Its all what u prefer.


INTENSE Heads and Cam Package dont save u money

the JP set is the rollmaster set now. they are made by the same company, sold under different names.

big cams dont run well on not ported heads

ported heads better flow makes sense to me

Actually Bio, Yella Terra owns JP now

Originally Posted by bluegtp91

EVERYTHING IS THE SAME...minus the pulley drop and the tuning...you have to get a 04-05 PCM to tune your car otherwise the gas gauge will read in reverse.

As for the pulley drop it is nothing but running a little larger of a pulley because of the Gen V vs. the Gen III...look at it like this...since the Gen V is more efficient than the Gen III, you don't need as much boost to make as much power...therefore it creates less heat and is less parasitic than a Gen III.

3.4" on a Gen III = 3.6" on a Gen V
3.2" on a Gen III = 3.4" on a Gen V

Follow? Everything about our cars are the same really minus those two things...

so what your saying is that i should order the 2005 overkill pcm for my 07 gt after i have done the suggested in the mod write up. which includes 180t stat, 104 lites, installing zzp headers, HV3 Upper Insert, Ported Throttle Body, Ported Supercharger Case, then take it down to a 3.4 pulley? did i get it right?

Re read it again...you should see what what happens when someone tries to install a HV3 on a supercharged car...

And ported heads only HELP you...they really can't hurt you....especially with flow mods such as headers