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10-04-2009
Paypal is out of it- they settled in our favor and closed the claim weeks ago when there was no money in the refunded account, remember. So I see no problem in giving him my address now. As far as criminal charges- sending a false item would not clear him- he has to make proper restitution to satisfy the criminal case.....Originally Posted by DnaProdigy
10-04-2009
Filed with the IC3 form, now going to email SGT
hope you get whats coming to you maybe you can meet "BUBBA" soon
10-05-2009
Perhaps i am misreading something but it seems that PayPal is still trying to work with him on the whole situation. He claimed "paypal has instructed me to send the item that you purchased." and other such things. This would insinuate one of two things.
One he is working with PayPal to try and clear things up so he can regain control of his account. The only way he could do this is by proving to them he has shipped your items. The only way to do this is with a tracking number which says an item is being send to your payment address.
Two he is unable to access his PayPal account and therefore cannot access your shipping addresses. And he genuinely wants to ship everyone out their stuff.
Why this is all BS:
1) IF he is working with PayPal and has access to his account then he has your shipping addresses and no reason for him to be asking you them. You can EASILY see the PayPal transactions from the past three months in your "account activity". [I just Checked]
2) Even if he cannot access his PayPal he still has an email with your shipping address in it (PayPal always sends one of these to the seller once a payment is made).
I am trying not to speculate but it VERY MUCH appears as if he is trying to cover himself by getting documentation to clear his name. An email of you saying "no i don't want this gauge" a tracking number that the item was sent etc. IMO evidence against him was overwhelming and now he is going to try and get documentation, in his favor, in case he gets prosecuted.
If he is really trying to do right he would have given an explanation publicly, he would not have deleted many of his posts on here AND he would have the time to take a picture of your items. Period.
I am not saying how to proceed, i am highly recommending you contact someone more knowledgeable then i (Sgt. Harlowe) before opening a dialog with TDC.
Last edited by DnaProdigy; 10-05-2009 at 12:50 AM.
10-05-2009
I don't think paypal is working with him at all. Look at my last post when he sarcastically mentions how much paypal has done for me thus far. He was just claiming that paypal is working with him in order to put more pressure on people to give their address. The only reason I talked to paypal yesterday was to have proof that he lied about paypal supposedly giving him guidelines that he only could ship out the product or else he'd "report" it to paypal and somehow we'd legitimately be out of our money and goods. It is just another lie. He just wants to bully us into playing his way.
Notice that while we were proceeding through the paypal action he didn't respond except to close the disputes. He only reappeared when we had filed our IC3 complaints and there were posts about contact with Sgt. Harlowe. Plus it seems he only PM'd those who had contacted the Sgt, and not all of those who had taken action with paypal. It looks pretty obvious that what got him scared enough to come back was the criminal action in the works, not the paypal action. This highlights the need for everyone to talk to the Sgt. This is how you press ol' TDC's button. The more people we get involved, the more leverage we get to get him to actually cooperate with us. And if he doesn't want to cooperate with us, he'll have more weighty criminal penalties because there are more victims involved and more money in controversy.
10-05-2009
Why would paypal be working with him if they straight up said, "Contact Parker concerning this refund" ?
Been trading emails with the Sargent yet no news from TDC. Would that be a good or bad thing?
10-05-2009
paypal not going to mess with it.
Just need everyone to get in contact with sgt harlowe and make his job easier. In getting a case built. I am sure he is needing all the info he can to build a case. I would assume because of the high amount of money its going to be filed as a felony especally since it goes over state lines. Hes is up a creek and doesn't not know how bad yet... I saw this happen to another guy and he got 2 years in prison and since it was a fed he had to server 100% time. IMO its a matter of time before he gets picked up. Even if he turned around and made things right he still going to do some jail time. Remember he gets a felony on his record its going to follow him around because most all nicer jobs will run a background check on him.
10-05-2009
isnt any online fraud a federal offense?
Originally Posted by SuperSport
10-05-2009
Remember... international.
10-05-2009
there were a few people from canada taken by this, dont know how that plays into it though
either way
Mail fraud - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
a felony, carries a sentence of up to five years in prison and/or fines of up to $250,000 when individuals are involved and up to 30 years in prison and/or $1,000,000 in fines when a financial institution is involved.
10-05-2009
Wire fraud - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Thats slightly more accurate considering the situation. No one here used the postal system seeing as nothing was shipped.
"Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, transmits or causes to be transmitted by means of wire, radio, or television communication in interstate or foreign commerce, any writings, signs, signals, pictures, or sounds for the purpose of executing such scheme or artifice, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both."
Twenty years for 5 large... Thats the greatest thing I've ever heard. Here you'd have to commit first degree murder to get 20-25 years, and thats the maximum sentence.
10-05-2009
Havent you heard of a Life term?
10-05-2009
Welcome to Canada, Life is 25 years and the only way you can ACTUALLY keep someone in jail for life is to classify them as a "Dangerous Offender". Even that can be difficult.
10-05-2009
Update: Filled out IC3 form, also order was placed on 8/26 not 8/25
10-05-2009
I still need to be updated. I did file an IC3 form and contact the Sgt. I am still awaiting to hear from him. No response at all from TDC to the PM i sent.
10-05-2009
Hopefully the forum admins keep the database logs, so that he can delete all he wants... but they have a copy for the SGT.
10-05-2009
Whats a log?
10-05-2009
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Last edited by garyd02gtp; 10-06-2009 at 10:39 PM.
10-06-2009
Contacted the Sgt. as well and filed an IC3 form. I'm one of the people from Canada involved.
10-06-2009
x2
but then again he has to ship them to Piza hut in TX first :P
10-06-2009
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Last edited by garyd02gtp; 10-06-2009 at 10:38 PM.
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