Thread: would this really work?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGw8ofa9JZo

some one install it and tell us!

No. There has never been any proven success.

looks like a meth injection set up to me. the vid is to long and boring to fully watch, but water injection is nothing new, and being hes got a res tank, wtf is that for, oh water he said didnt he?

im calling bs on the whole hydrogen gas crap.

The thing is that you can produce hydrogen, but not in the volume you would need to run a car off of the cars electrical system, it just ain't happening. I had a guy that wanted me to build an HHO generator and had a several hundred page manual that was just a bunch of double speak and half truths. The schematic was simple, but the amount of energy needed would have to come from somewhere else. A car couldn't run and build up enough to keep it going for any length of time. That didn't even take into account metering it to the engine it was just a tube that led to the carburetor there was no way of throttling the outgoing gas. It was ridiculously ludicrous.

Jeff

How can people honestly post YouTube comments saying this **** works?

water injections been around since the 40's works well on a diesel engines.

first account of its use that i know of was ww2 plane engines. keeps the cylinder temps lower. so more power and a longer lasting engine from it.

Because they go through all the trouble to make something and get it to pop or be able to light it, but when it comes to actually running it doesn't work so to save face they lie. Or they hook it up and say it works like the bilge pump electric superchargers.

Jeff

Originally Posted by Scottydoggs

water injections been around since the 40's works well on a diesel engines.

first account of its use that i know of was ww2 plane engines. keeps the cylinder temps lower. so more power and a longer lasting engine from it.

This isn't water injection, it's using electricity to separate the hydrogen and oxygen molecules in the water, then burning off the hydrogen gas as fuel in the engine. Like Jeff said though, you can't make enough to do anything, it's not metered, etc. It's witch craft and snake oil, basically.

its water injection with a dash of BS.......aka snake oil lol

he said its on a ford exploder, thats a fuel injected engine. then he shows the install on old ass 350 carb engine. and where was the glass jars with the water and baking soda in the pick up truck? its all bull sh it.

Originally Posted by J57ltr

The thing is that you can produce hydrogen, but not in the volume you would need to run a car off of the cars electrical system, it just ain't happening. I had a guy that wanted me to build an HHO generator and had a several hundred page manual that was just a bunch of double speak and half truths. The schematic was simple, but the amount of energy needed would have to come from somewhere else. A car couldn't run and build up enough to keep it going for any length of time. That didn't even take into account metering it to the engine it was just a tube that led to the carburetor there was no way of throttling the outgoing gas. It was ridiculously ludicrous.

Jeff

Exactly! The amount of energy required to produce hydrogen is greater then the energy output of the hydrogen! Hydrogen stores very low amount of energy compared to gasoline. It takes large amounts of electricity to produce a reasonable quantity of hydrogen that would sufficiently contribute to providing energy to push a piston down. Never mind getting into the dynamics of how hydrogen burns, burn rate, stoich, etc that would need to be accounted for in the engine to be efficient.

If there was any inkling of reasonableness to his claims I would be shoving snow down into my gas tank right now! LOL

I love how hes like yeah I was getting 13.whatever miles per gallon, but since I put this contraption on my fuel economy has gone up 53%. Thats only ~7 mpgs.
I'm should post on there that 67% of statistics are made up on the spot.

It has the possibility of working, but none of the guys that make these kits, draw up plans to sell and sell parts to make the kits don't provide any way of storing the HHO and metering it. It's literally like a couple of knuckleheads that heard how it works and made up some kits but they aren't even mechanics. A lot of these claims are by people that have installed them and "think" they get better gas mileage. Half of them can't even calculate gas mileage. When I quantify changes I look at a lot of information for a long time. I have every fill up since I bought my car a year ago, and I am still surprised when I tell myself this should be a fillup, I didn't get on it and I should be at least in the 20's for gas mileage, BAM 17.5 mpg. It's really hard to get straight numbers because people put them on and want to save face and not get taken for a sucker so they say it's way better than it was. Either that or you get someone that means well and let's say he gets 20 mpg and has for a long time, well he ends up doing a tune up and fixing some things here and there installs the HHO and now he's at 23.5 wow a 15% increase in mileage using HHO, there you have it. It's never an apples to apples comparison, and it's never a long term study. Know why it's not a long term study? It doesn't work. You just can't generate that much HHO to offset its power consumption. Think about this. It would take a much larger generator to produce usable quantities of hydrogen, like 6 of the ones on the site listed above. There are more efficient models, but they are harder to make work in anything other than a countertop. This is without taking into account the amount of distilled water needed to be kept on board. Any impurities will cause the unit to fail and lose its already low efficiency. This kit has a 3 quart container, how long do you think that will last. If you do try it keep notes and make sure to quantify the changes.

Jeff