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  1. #1041 Re: 1997 Black GTP, Project Mpg, Step 2 of 4. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by boostedcompg View Post
    im, im pretty sure any asshat on here knows how to read a gauge or hp readin knock
    Tell me you've never had to change a tune for the weather or season change and i'll call you a liar to your face.

    Cars are very variable with what will work 100% of the time.
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    So can you guys tell me that the engine was in 100% mechanical health at that point?

    Or are you just going to assume the tune magically decided to up and knock one day?

    How about suggesting reading the old spark plugs and picking new ones based on how the old ones are burning?

    Or is Racecar logic winning here?
     

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    agreed....but a few degrees here and there. barring some other issue (which im sure jeremy could have figured out) 5 seems a little much to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by boostedcompg View Post
    agreed....but a few degrees here and there. barring some other issue (which im sure jeremy could have figured out) 5 seems a little much to me
    Only time it knocked 5* while i was tuning it is when the car was on the stock tune.
    When i was done with it (At the time of the actual tune) It only knocked up to 1.5* at the top of 2nd with Brandon giving it a sound thrashing.
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    coming from the guy who drives it every day, it sees 2-3* . I hardly ever race it. However it was raced in MI and it did see 5* on the aero. Oddly enough I'm on a 3.5 now vs the 3.4 I was on the day of tuning. It's a mess.
    2003 Grand Prix GTP-3.5 setup, sold it, miss it
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    mess....hmmm
    04 comp G, front/rear towerbraces, pacesetters, ported sc, LIM, 3.3 pulley, 1.9 mod rockers, Ls1 springs and retainers, custom dyno tune, 180 tstat, shortned dog bones, full poly mounts, zzp shift kit, custom fwi, 28inch cherry bomb, flowmaster 40's. 290whp 380wtq before the button. coldfusion n2o, 60 shot. I haz corvette brakezand gxp cluster! smgpfc028
     

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    All of you babies, STFU and go PM each other sex stories and get out of Dan's thread.

    If you have anything really raunchy...send it to Drunkie; he likes that sh1t.
    Sold WBody's: '03 Blue GTP/'98 Green GTP/'98 Silver GT/'05 GXP
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    I'm also posting this because somehow I missed it...

    Quote Originally Posted by Nixon View Post
    Just like everything else in this place, if an orange said it; It must be true

    I know what i know and what i know is the truth. I have nothing to hide in that respect.
    I'm not orange, I'm blue.

    Thanks, buy some beef jerky and come again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brandonl2000 View Post
    coming from the guy who drives it every day, it sees 2-3* . I hardly ever race it. However it was raced in MI and it did see 5* on the aero. Oddly enough I'm on a 3.5 now vs the 3.4 I was on the day of tuning. It's a mess.
    I'm just calling it like i see it.





    These are from the last good run.
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    Went and bought AL606 Coppers. Starting to install them, I got to the 5th one and the plug wire ripped. So now the car sits until I get my MSDs in the mail. Quick questions..

    1: I need to move my car in the garage, can it run on 5 cylinders for a short time?

    2: Where is the fuel filter? I'm going to replace that also.

    3: how do you disconnect the fuel lines from the fuel rail and fuel filter with the fuel line quick disconnect tool from AutoZone?
    '97 GTP - Stage 2 Heads, 90# Springs, 1.9 Harland Sharp Rockers, Gen V, 3.0, Intake, N* TB, LQ4, FSIC, 10.5mm Wires, Poly Mounts, SLP Headers, Borla Exaust, Built Trans - SOLD*

    '08 G8 GT - 6.7L 408CI Stroker, 239/254 Cam, Fast Intake, 102mm TB, CAI, Full Exhaust.





     

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    You can run shortly on 5 cyl. Or you can wrap where its ripped in electrical tape for temp fix
    98 GTP modded 1.9's, sd headers, 3.4", zzp 1.0 230K miles scrapped.
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    I think I will just run on 5 cylinders shortly. I already removed the 5 plug wire. You know the answers to my other 2 questions? Of coarse you do
    '97 GTP - Stage 2 Heads, 90# Springs, 1.9 Harland Sharp Rockers, Gen V, 3.0, Intake, N* TB, LQ4, FSIC, 10.5mm Wires, Poly Mounts, SLP Headers, Borla Exaust, Built Trans - SOLD*

    '08 G8 GT - 6.7L 408CI Stroker, 239/254 Cam, Fast Intake, 102mm TB, CAI, Full Exhaust.





     

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    The fuel filter is on the drivers side, about half way back, around the rockers down there. It's easy, just unbolt and it comes right off. Simple simple simple.
    2003 Grand Prix GTP-3.5 setup, sold it, miss it
    2002 Grand Prix GT-top swap, GT1 Cam, SD Headers, 90# springs, 42.5 injectors, 3.4 pulley - sold
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    How do you remove the fuel line? Isn't one end a fuel line and the other end bolted?
    '97 GTP - Stage 2 Heads, 90# Springs, 1.9 Harland Sharp Rockers, Gen V, 3.0, Intake, N* TB, LQ4, FSIC, 10.5mm Wires, Poly Mounts, SLP Headers, Borla Exaust, Built Trans - SOLD*

    '08 G8 GT - 6.7L 408CI Stroker, 239/254 Cam, Fast Intake, 102mm TB, CAI, Full Exhaust.





     

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    From the filter? One part of it is bolted in, you use a crescent wrench or a line wrench and hold the filter with one and twist the other end off. If it's rusted badly, twist the filter instead. The other end is just a plastic clip onto the rubber line.

    As for the fuel rail and such you mentioned, I've never taken it off with one of those tools, but there's two prongs inside it right there. Do you have the two special orings to replace them there?
    2003 Grand Prix GTP-3.5 setup, sold it, miss it
    2002 Grand Prix GT-top swap, GT1 Cam, SD Headers, 90# springs, 42.5 injectors, 3.4 pulley - sold
    2012 Chevrolet Cruze LTZ-Summit White, 1.4Turbo
     

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    neutral push

    you work so hard on those muscles, use em
     

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    el oh el. this guy is funny^^

    limp that bish.
    2003 Grand Prix GTP-3.5 setup, sold it, miss it
    2002 Grand Prix GT-top swap, GT1 Cam, SD Headers, 90# springs, 42.5 injectors, 3.4 pulley - sold
    2012 Chevrolet Cruze LTZ-Summit White, 1.4Turbo
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by brandonl2000 View Post
    From the filter? One part of it is bolted in, you use a crescent wrench or a line wrench and hold the filter with one and twist the other end off. If it's rusted badly, twist the filter instead. The other end is just a plastic clip onto the rubber line.

    As for the fuel rail and such you mentioned, I've never taken it off with one of those tools, but there's two prongs inside it right there. Do you have the two special orings to replace them there?
    And im guessing i need to pull the Fuel pump relay when the car is running to avoid getting gas everywhere? and i have this tool, im just not sure how to use it on the fuel rail line.

    OEM/Fuel line disconnect tool for GM, Ford and Chrysler (25043) | Line Disconnect Tool | AutoZone.com


    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Monkey View Post
    neutral push

    you work so hard on those muscles, use em
    I neutral pushed the car back to its original spot on the driveway but my driveway is kinda uphill and im lazy so no neutral push again, ill run on 5 cylinders for about 15 seconds. i like 5 cylinders
    '97 GTP - Stage 2 Heads, 90# Springs, 1.9 Harland Sharp Rockers, Gen V, 3.0, Intake, N* TB, LQ4, FSIC, 10.5mm Wires, Poly Mounts, SLP Headers, Borla Exaust, Built Trans - SOLD*

    '08 G8 GT - 6.7L 408CI Stroker, 239/254 Cam, Fast Intake, 102mm TB, CAI, Full Exhaust.





     

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanPrixGTP View Post
    And im guessing i need to pull the Fuel pump relay when the car is running to avoid getting gas everywhere? and i have this tool, im just not sure how to use it on the fuel rail line.

    OEM/Fuel line disconnect tool for GM, Ford and Chrysler (25043) | Line Disconnect Tool | AutoZone.com
    buddy I wish I could help but I've never used that tool. I'm sorry... in fact, if you figure it out let me know because I found a guy and special ordered the o-rings to go in there so I prevent fire.

    However you can pull the relay if you wanna go that route. Or you can just take the cap off the fuel rail and press the needle in and bleed out the gas.

    But honestly, I've never done that. To me, you're working with the fuel system, you're gonna get gas everywhere anyway. A little gas spewing everywhere is NOT going to hurt a thing, as long as you're not smoking or driving the car right away of course. I just let fuel spew.

    EDIT: But just by looking at the tool, it looks like you just wrap it around the fuel line and push it up in the winged part of the flange or whatever so you can release the lines from the rail.
    2003 Grand Prix GTP-3.5 setup, sold it, miss it
    2002 Grand Prix GT-top swap, GT1 Cam, SD Headers, 90# springs, 42.5 injectors, 3.4 pulley - sold
    2012 Chevrolet Cruze LTZ-Summit White, 1.4Turbo
     

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    Brandon,

    Your so smart.

    How about you just drive 12 hours and do this for me and call it a day, sound good? good
    '97 GTP - Stage 2 Heads, 90# Springs, 1.9 Harland Sharp Rockers, Gen V, 3.0, Intake, N* TB, LQ4, FSIC, 10.5mm Wires, Poly Mounts, SLP Headers, Borla Exaust, Built Trans - SOLD*

    '08 G8 GT - 6.7L 408CI Stroker, 239/254 Cam, Fast Intake, 102mm TB, CAI, Full Exhaust.





     

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