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  1. #1 How to slot a strut for camber correction 
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    I have a 1999 GP, a GT coupe, that was pushed over a curb in a collision. The right rear wheel sits WAY too far IN at the top as a result.

    Its normal for the wheels to look like they sit crooked on these cars, but I have another one for reference and this was obviously wrong.

    After visual inspection of the existing parts, no alarming damage or bent parts are obvious. An alignment might fix it. BUT-

    If you don't do what I'm about to explain before getting the car set up on an alignment rack, you may have to pay extra to have it done by the alignment tech. I don't mind doing that. But in this case I can possibly avoid it by creating some added range of adjustment for that guy to work with before going to see him.

    This is very basic, not much more complex than changing a tire. These pics just provide a visual for easier understanding of the task without speculation on when or where its needed. The idea is to do as little as possible because without being on an alignment rack, you don't really know which direction to go. Mine was obvious but I'm skipping the tire pic so nobody thinks too hard about it lol.

    Right rear, 99 GP GT coupe shown. Just about anything with struts front or rear will be constructed in the same way.



    Remove top nut, loosen bottom one slightly. Don't try to turn that funky bolt head, there are splines holding the bolt still and you'll tear chit up or hurt yerself. Ignore the bolt head and just unscrew the nut. Then drive the bolt straight out, no turning until splines are free. Honestly, for this I used a hatchet. It was all I had on hand at home. This allows the knuckle to tilt outward at the top, in relation to the strut. See?



    Front view. See where I've moved the knuckle outward at the top? Thats more than enough but I wanted to avoid grinding the knuckle.



    This was how I gently pried the knuckle into the desired position with a tire iron-



    I got out the Dremel tool-



    ... and in a sloppy manner, I created some slop! Removed just enough material for the bolt to move outward, just BARELY. Would have looked neater if the brake line wasn't in the way. No points for neatness on this. The hole on the rear side of this strut was big enough to allow room without grinding. Its the side with the bolt splines (front) where this work is done.



    So yeah, I thumped on the bolt head a few times putting it back in. You can put the tire back on with a couple nuts to gain leverage for aligning the hole, and to check how the wheel sits. This tiny bit of movement was good for probably close to an inch of adjustment out at the tread surface. No kidding, it doesn't take much but they almost all (97-03 anyway) need this to be within spec. Even with new struts. Beats using a skinny bolt, I say. I also say resist the urge to enlarge the entire hole with a drill. You just need a little slot to it, in the right spot to correct your issue.

    All Grand Prix, all the time. 69 Model J, 99 GT & GTP coupes. All junk, haha.
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    why grind the knuckle when you can grind the strut holes?

    98 Buick Regal GS, F body brakes, Caddy STS wheels, tinted tails L36 bottom end, lightly ported heads, 1.95 roller rockers, headers, gen 5 N* 3.0 pulley, FSIC, 42 lb injectors, a BrandonHall rebuilt trans, DHP tuned and AEM water/Meth injection https://goo.gl/gpV5kW
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    I didn't. Ground the strut hole goober. I know that pic is blurry I couldn't get the camera to focus on the right spot with it shiny.
    All Grand Prix, all the time. 69 Model J, 99 GT & GTP coupes. All junk, haha.
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    i see now, never mind lol i pulled the knuckle all the way out of the strut on the top. only had to loosen the bottom bolt.

    98 Buick Regal GS, F body brakes, Caddy STS wheels, tinted tails L36 bottom end, lightly ported heads, 1.95 roller rockers, headers, gen 5 N* 3.0 pulley, FSIC, 42 lb injectors, a BrandonHall rebuilt trans, DHP tuned and AEM water/Meth injection https://goo.gl/gpV5kW
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    Hang in there buzz man. Friday's coming!

    Guys let me know if this write up isn't clear, I'll fix it. Need to do a couple more but not in any hurry lol. Its hot out.
    All Grand Prix, all the time. 69 Model J, 99 GT & GTP coupes. All junk, haha.
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    Lol goober
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyBob03 View Post
    Lol goober
    That's what I call my dog.
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    Nice write up Matt
    Takes all the questions out of it.

    Hey Scotty you said you used a drill bit in the past, did that hog it out easy enough or did you have to lay into it?
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    you need to lean on it pretty good, its quick work. whole job was done in less then 30 minutes jack out to jack put away.

    98 Buick Regal GS, F body brakes, Caddy STS wheels, tinted tails L36 bottom end, lightly ported heads, 1.95 roller rockers, headers, gen 5 N* 3.0 pulley, FSIC, 42 lb injectors, a BrandonHall rebuilt trans, DHP tuned and AEM water/Meth injection https://goo.gl/gpV5kW
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    It is quick work. Tim, thanks. Scotty, "leaning on" stuff is different for you. FWIW that new little POS parts store bit is damn sharp, it worked nice! My other bit like that is all gummed up from cutting drain holes in all the lamps.
    All Grand Prix, all the time. 69 Model J, 99 GT & GTP coupes. All junk, haha.
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    What about using camber bolts? my camber is off in the rear and i have some camber bolts to correct it just haven't done it yet.
    The guy at Firestone said to put them in the bottom (i think he is wrong) and he will align it again. i'm thinking of doing all four. good idea?

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    I don't know, I've never seen one for these cars but if its a skinnier bolt I'd rather have the strut slot instead. If a guy wanted to get fancy about it, he could weld up the side of the hole opposite the enlarged side and then neatly grind or drill the hole in the altered position so theres no play possible. Thats truly overkill though, because the slot creates no issues and costs zero. Perhaps regulations dictate that camber bolts be used in some areas, or at least suggested. I have no idea why camber bolts are even offered for these!
    All Grand Prix, all the time. 69 Model J, 99 GT & GTP coupes. All junk, haha.
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    i don't think its firestone's policy to slot the struts. i would like to go that route.
    I'm going to check with another alignment shop and show them the firestone printout.

    1997 Black GTP Coupe | 1997 Black GTP Coupe | 2001 Silver GTP Coupe | 2001 Red GTP Coupe
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    When I had Sears do one of my last alignments the guy suggested that if I wanted it perfect to slot them. Like Matt.. I'm not a fan of the camber bolt. It's a thinner bolt with a cam lobe look to it usually.

    I used an air grinder with Matco carbide bit. Maybe have been 10 min flat with air tools and a beer break.
    I drink..so consider that when reading my posts.

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    Back before bill had an influence on me, I bought adjustable camber bolts before I took my gp to dobb's for an alignment. And now 6 years later I go to my toolbox before I spend any money, because it's logical. 10 minutes with an airgrinder is free in my book.
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    FYI, most aftermarket height adjustable coilovers come with the upper holes already slotted for camber adjustment. this is nothing new. i'd slot the strut holes way before using camber bolts.
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