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    What happens if you just cut the entire V out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pman64 View Post
    What happens if you just cut the entire V out?
    Then the rotors have nothing there to push against...so you wouldn't make any boost at all...and you'd have a 50 pound metal air intake instead.
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    Well, I could understand where your comin from. Got it back together and it puts out a little more boost. Ive got full boost at about half throttle.
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    Sooooo, does doing this make a considerable amount of difference? I haven't heard anybody on this thread sounding all excited to have more power with a newly ported sc. Of course I understand it all depends on what other mods are done to each vehicle. But on a broad spectrum, stock to heavily modded, who's feeling the power?
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    Its more of a supporting mod to help air flow and reduce KR
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    not much of a diff in power, the whine is nice tho
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    I haven't ran that gen 3 I ported yet, but my stock gen V which is like a ported out gen 3 and before I did anything it felt a bit faster... Not a whole lot but noticeable.
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    Sounds like too much work for very minimal gains.....to me anyways. I may be wrong though...aaaand im sure someone below will tell me why im wrong. Lol
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    Has anyone done a dyno/benchflow comparision between a gen three ported blower and a gen 5?
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    Unsure, but compare the inlet side.

    Thats where the gains are made.

    You can't port the Gen III much because of the PCV system.
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    That makes sense. I was just wondering.
    - Ed - 2000 Grand Poverty Daytona edition. Rough idle. Funny whistle. Steering issues at WOT. 3.8 SC pulley.
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    The main difficulty with M90 blowers is getting the air in so the rotor cavity is filled. These particular blowers (GM Gen 3 and Gev 5) have pretty generous inlet ports to begin with, so the main problem is out of the way already.

    If you compare the inlet ports on these blowers to the early M90s as used on the Thunderbird SC, you will see how much the inlet has grown over the years. Aftermarket products like the Magnum Powers MPX case have gone even bigger on the inlet that these blowers ... but those are designed to be spun very fast and give major high-RPM boost. There is a trade-off between minimizing boost leakage at low RPMs and maximizing airflow at high RPMs, and the MPX is skewed toward maximum performance.

    Here is how to tell how far is too far. At the point where the leading rotor opens to the outlet port, the trailing rotor had better not be open to the inlet port. Otherwise, the pressurized air in the LIM will force air back out the inlet port. So that is the key thing to check.

    Don't worry about the two small silencer ports ... they might let a small amount of air bleed back from the LIM, but it is by design, to keep the blower less whiny. Old people buy Regals, you know.

    As for beveling the outlet port: Don't bother beveling the edge facing you. What would it do, help the air make the turn out of the outlet and shoot to the sides of the case? That doesn't make sense. Beveling (or filleting) the edge on the inside of the case is a good idea. It will help the air make the turn out of the case. Removing the bolt bosses (or not) is up to you. At a minimum, remove a little material to smooth out the airflow from the backside of the bosses out of the case.

    The other problem that the early M90 had was control of the rotor clearances. The coated rotors in the second generation helped that issue, and the Gen 3 and Gen5 benefit from it.
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    I am looking at porting do you have to tune it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio248 View Post
    1) barely any coolant, dont worry about draining it.
    2) not sure on this one, i used a CNC lathe so it only took me 10 minutes
    3) the throttle body gasket MIGHT need to be replaced. if its new enough it might be okay, but otherwise its a non-reusable gasket.
    How did you do it on a CNC lathe? i was going to do it on a full CNC machine, but a lathe sounds much easier

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    One other thing is it true that when closing the two small squares or how u spell it
    The charger will whistle more

    And second how do they close it beqouse when using a welding machine al the heat in the
    Aluminum will bent the charger

    Am I wrong ,
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    its not worth the risk for doing it. i had mine sealed up and the blower didnt sound much different.
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    what is considered OVER PORTING?
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    making the triangle of the outlet any bigger towards the inlet side of the blower case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperchargedFiero View Post
    One other thing is it true that when closing the two small squares or how u spell it
    The charger will whistle more

    Am I wrong ,
    Some people have talked about blocking those "silencer holes" in previous threads, however no one has come to conclusion on the best way to do so really. All I have heard is to not use JB Weld or anything else that could break up. Those who have said it is very noticeable sound difference and you can even hear the supercharger whistling on idle.
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