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  1. #41 Re: Which is easier to use... DHP Powertuner or an HP Tuner... 
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    Hows that Uvscan compare to the Scan date Thingy?
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    Apples & Oranges
    The SDT uses data from something like UVScan
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  3. #43 Re: Which is easier to use... DHP Powertuner or an HP Tuner... 
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    So UV is better for me?

    I'm trying to understand this thing
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  4. #44 Re: Which is easier to use... DHP Powertuner or an HP Tuner... 
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    UV Scanner scans your car
    Eddie's SDT uses the files made by the scanner & helps you edit your BIN
    You can use both together...
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  5. #45 Re: Which is easier to use... DHP Powertuner or an HP Tuner... 
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    Guess I need to get a clean scan then. What kinda scan should I get? WOT I assume? If so, how fast should I go?
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  6. #46 Re: Which is easier to use... DHP Powertuner or an HP Tuner... 
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    I'm going out on a limb here...
    You haven't really started reading in the DHP Forums?

    I can't tell you in a post or 2 how to scan for a good tune...
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    Yes I have, several times. I don't get it, I feel like an American citizen in China trying to figure out the language and what the hell is going on. I've been on it several times, asked for help and haven't gotten any. I'm not the smartest guy in the world, but I feel I need some collage degree to be on that board.

    I wish someone local could help with this thing but im the only one around here...
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    Depends on what you're doing. If you're MAF or VE tuning you want to disable your PE and hit as many RPM and throttle combinations as possible. You should probably read through Jerry's guide on how to get a good scan, follow that step by step, and then use Eddie's SDT to use the scan and modify your calibrations. Jerry's guide goes over all of that start to finish.
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  9. #49 Re: Which is easier to use... DHP Powertuner or an HP Tuner... 
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    How about you start here: Board Message
    Alot of good info in the links he's pulled together...


    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Indian View Post
    Yes I have, several times. I don't get it, I feel like an American citizen in China trying to figure out the language and what the hell is going on. I've been on it several times, asked for help and haven't gotten any. I'm not the smartest guy in the world, but I feel I need some collage degree to be on that board.

    I wish someone local could help with this thing but im the only one around here...
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    It seems so overwhelming. I know i'm not the only one who feels this way, i've talked to others who eventully just sold off everything. I don't blame em...
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    I just purchased HPT this past week. All I"m going to say by just using it for the last 5 days is I ain't turning back.

    It's helped fix my idle issue, my fueling issues, maf problems......everything so far. And I've just gotten started with it.
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    You had a Powertuner before right? Is the HPT that much easier?? I feel I need a collage degree to operate the damn thing.
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    I kinda scratched my head at first, but that's because I just didn't get the tuning concept and how the calibration tables affected the PCM. Once you understand that you could use either tuner just as easy.
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  14. #54 Re: Which is easier to use... DHP Powertuner or an HP Tuner... 
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    It's not really "easier" I have to say....already having a powertuner for so many years, I have a basic idea of what needs to be done. That said, the HPT is absolutely completely backwards on their tables compared to the PT, so I was a little crosseyed at first. They have these things called Histograms that basically do what Eddie's scan data thingy does.......and those things are going to be my best friend.

    So far, I love everything about it. I almost wish I had bought one years ago, but I'm also glad I still have the PT, because now everyone in my club benefits from it....and now if they want to buy the credit for their cars, they can reap the rewards from the HPT when I get most of it figured out.
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    Wish you lived closer Brian, I'd just have you tune this thing so I know it was done right!

    I don't think I'll ever figure this out, its beyond me. Unless someone actully sits down and explains each step in english to me.
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    If someone took you out tuning and you saw it in action once, you've got it. That's all it takes for most people.
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    I agree. Now drive your ass up here and teach me something! LOL Its not like you don't need to break in you new top swap anyway...
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    Wish I could, but the AF has plans for me to be in Shreveport.
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    Well just cancel them! LOL, kidding
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    Read, Read, Read, then scan, then read, read, change something, scan again, scan again.

    The only thing that helps is more practice and being able to work through the bumps you hit. Im sure there are other people reading this thread so I'll explain some of the basic stuff you will be doing or can do if your first starting and overwhelmed or unsure of what you should be changing/doing.

    Basic Powrtuner use:

    Hook up your powrtuner, walk through the steps to activate it, upload your .bin file off your car. Go to the powrtuner forums and download a stock .bin file for your car and just start comparing and seeing what changes were made, familiarize, all this is done by opening the .bin files in the powrtuner program. Then take the stock .bin and read through jerry's tuner notebook making changes it says and try to learn what each change is doing for you. This will help you get familiar with the different parameters you should be dealing with as a beginner. Always have a couple different .bin files when you first start out so you can have something to fall back to if something goes wrong.

    Basic Scanning:
    (you can scan with the powrtuner program, but it has been known to have bugs, uvscanning.com is a great solution)

    Then after downloading the latest version of uvscan, run the program and you may have to tamper with what com port you use to connect to the car. Connect to the car and it will show the vin # or other things letting you know its connected. Setup the parameters you want to scan, the pids/parameters you want to scan for should be whatever is needed for using eddies tool and then a few others if you want (i'll update later with a list). Click on scanner and it will pop up with the different pid's, zoom in with the F1 key i think. Here is where you can start driving and seeing what your car is doing and record the scan by hitting start log, then stop log and it saves it. I usually just have one filename and go by the date/time when looking back at different scans. You should refer to jerry's tuner notebook for getting a good scan but the slower you go through different gears and throttle positions, the better. Just think about the thousands of different parameters being calculated and adjusted per second and we are trying to alter about all of these without any bumps or gaps in the charts, the slower, the better at first, the scan file you are saving isn't that big of a file and you can upload multiple 30 minute runs into eddies tool, so don't worry about that.

    I need to go to bed now and will update/edit this later, people can add on/change what i said but i noticed we need to have a couple different versions of jerry's notebook so these questions and newcomers can feel a little better about what they are doing.
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