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06-26-2008
How do you click the performance shift on or is it a option thats not on every gtp. I can see it in my dash when the sun hits it just right. I don't see any buttons or any thing inside my car. Someone should write a book on modding
this car. I live in a small town and must people here are all mustang guys.
Thanks for all the help every one in this forum have been to me so far.
06-26-2008
it's on the shift knob on the gtp's (at least on mine)
06-26-2008
They don't have the performance shift after 99. However it's still in the pcm and it's still in the guages(location varies). You can ground a pin out on the pcm and you will have performance shift all the time or you can wire a switch to that pin and when you flip the switch you'll have performance shift. It's definately a must have. I know it's pin 21 but i can't remember if its the blue or clear connector. Find a writeup before attemtping this.
Check for a button on the shifter if it's not there then you most likely have do what i described above.
06-26-2008
is there a big difference in the performance shifting???
06-27-2008
You will see the words PERFORMANCE SHIFT inside your DIC on most newer GPs. You have to turn on the settings in the PCM and get a shift lever that has the PS button on it or you can rig up a switch somewhere else on your console to make it work.
The benefits are nice in the fact that you can have your daily driver tranny setup in nonperformance mode and then have your track or jackin around settings setup for when you select the Performance Shift mode.
Its something well worth looking into. I made a write up for it on our how to section.
http://www.grandprixforums.net/perf_shift.php
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06-27-2008
Most people find performance shift settings great for daily driiving, and leave it on all of the time. I think having a switch though would be nice though.
Do the OSID's on GTPs without Performance Shift have the Performance Shift tables setup up? On the Impalas, Performance Shift and Normal have identical values in the tables.
Nevermind: I just looked at a stock 2002 GTP bin and they do have different values. The Performance Shift tables are not that aggressive, but they are different than Normal.
06-27-2008
Well yeah GM is not gonna put massively different settings in the peformance shift. I think they mostly took off the speed limiter, and changed some shift points to hint at more spirited shifting, but nothing crazy.Originally Posted by IndeedSS
Of course you are gonna seek out people in the community who have redone their tranny tunes and get their profiles to make a better performance shift tune. I have Chris O's tune he uses on his GTP, different shift points and such beyond what the stock performance shift has to offer
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06-27-2008
I like my more crisp shifts for normal driving. Less wear and tear on the clutches plus higher line pressure is a lower duty cycle (less wear) for the dreaded pressure control solenoid.
06-27-2008
Partially right. The speed limiter is set up in the spark and fuel tables, not the transmission settings.
06-27-2008
DOH! Spanks for pointing that out sir...........
Speaking of spark................plugs......................
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06-27-2008
My '00 GTP has it right on the shifter like normal.
So forgive me, I'm new i guess only owned it for 2 months, when on performace shift there is no speed limiter? Or is it just raised up higher? Don't really need to go that fast but just curious.
06-27-2008
Speed limiter is there based off your stock tire speed rating. Going to performance shift wouldn't magically swap tires on your car, so I highly doubt GM upped the overall speed limiter for performance shift. They may have extended some shift points, but I doubt your final limiter was lifted.
06-27-2008
Well I got that from the Article that had the wiring setup for the Performance switch. I will try and track it down and reread it. Maybe I mistook what they said *shrugs*
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I went to the Quebec Grand Prix Forum boards where I originally got the article, but the person who posted the pictures through his own personal web account no longer has them posted
Last edited by GeddyLee; 06-27-2008 at 02:07 PM.
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06-27-2008
Actually I believe the last year for performance shift was either 2000 or 2001. My 2000 GTP has it.
06-27-2008
Performance shift, with an untouched PCM only changes the line pressure and desired shift times. Meaning Performance shift mode is firmer and faster shifting. With a tuner you can also make differences in RPM shifting under WOT and Part throttle and MPH shifting, TCC lock/unlock etc.
06-27-2008
yeah i got ps too
06-27-2008
Very true.....the speed limiter is there as a lawsuit prevention tool by the car manufacturer. If your car came with H rated tires on it from the factory, your speed limiter will be set to under 130MPH. If you change tires to a V rated tire, it will still be under 130MPH unless you have a some type of PCM editing program/tool. Be very careful when editing your speed limiter. If you choose to increase it to say 255MPH, and you are runing H rated tires, and make some long runs at 135MPH, you do run the risk of the tires coming apart. You should never drive faster than the speed rating of your tires for any length of time.
Performance shift only effects the line pressure (firmer shifts) and the time between shifts (how fast it will shift). Anything else, such as:
Higher or lower RPM's at the shift point
Speed limiter increase or decrease (my teenager learned about this one. Hers is limited to 75MPH and I told her if she gets a ticket in town, I will lower it to 35MPH and she wont be able to take the interstate anywhere)
Higher or lower MPH at the shift point
And a whole slew of other things like Torque Management.
If your going to adjust this stuff, ALWAYS us a 400RPM buffer, meaning if you want the car to shift at 6000RPM, set your tune to 5600RPM. By the time the car gets the signal to shift (@5600RPM) and everything switches over you will be at 6000RPM.
2000 was the last year for STOCK performance shift by the way.
webracin
06-28-2008
if I was to end up having to do this ( id probably start w/ the switch then get the shift nob from PFYC.. but actually having a switch would seem pretty cool, ge one of those little ones from RS w/ the red cover) but yea anywho back to the question.. would i HAVE to get an aftermarket PCM or would i be able to do the recalibration w/ the hand held.. and if so is it setup to automatically set the shift points to such as the earlier years? or would all that have to be tuned? cause i saw its ll the same just minus the shift button so i wonder how much calibration and setup would be needed. does it do exactly what the 99's and so on Performance shift does?! ( i know i asked like 2 questions twice lol)
just curious to know what to expect
06-28-2008
Like IndeedSS said, the cars that don't have performance shift wired usually have the same numbers in both the normal and performance tables. No sense in changing them if they can't be used, right?
And what is "the handheld"?
06-29-2008
like a hand held tuner.
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