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  1. #1 1991 G.P SE 3.1 runs sluggish when cold?? 
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    Hello, I have a 1991 GP 3.1, I recently replaced the Fuel Pump & Filter Proactively, and installed new Plugs and wires, new TPS and knock sensor
    also this summer. Now, when the Car is Cold, it has a very distinct Miss
    to it... until it warms up. I thought maybe the Fuel regulator might be bad,
    but checked the pressure and it's within tolerances. I sprayed Brake Clean
    around Intake Gasket/ Vacuum lines...Nothing. The Fuel Economy is really
    Bad, since the new Pump was installed. (15 mpg)
    It is not throwing a code out either??
    When it hesitates Cold, I can Mash her down, and it will take off.
    Any Ideas on what else it could be??
    (I checked the Temp sensor also.)
    It runs great, when warm!
    Thanks, Matt.
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    *INTRO PLEASE*


    hmmm interesting.
    do you mean like a miss fire when you say that it has a distinct miss?

    im wondering if theres something up with the injectors or if theres a blockage in the fuel line somewhere that would cause it to run that way. try fuel injector cleaner next
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    I ran 2 Tank Fulls of Injector cleaner through it already.
    This Morning, when it was Cold, I sprayed it with Brake Clean,
    and there was No change again. (while running.) (Possible Vacuum leak?)
    I drove it and it ran Great!?
    I replaced the TPS, this Summer, with a cheap one from O Reilly's
    and I am wondering if this isn't the culprit?? (No Codes though.)
    I am thinking either it is a Intake Gasket leak or something with
    the TPS.?
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    SMGPFC # 008 -White 1995 Grand Prix SE: tinted tails, Flowmaster 40 Series mufflers with resonating tips. much more to come eventually
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    change the ECT sender.

    you said its only when cold and fine when warm...
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    If the Coolant Temp sensor was bad , wouldn't it through a code?
    "SES"
    There are no codes being thrown?

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    Mine didn't throw a code.

    Read low when at running temp.

    Car had misfires at idle. Ran great once warm.

    Now its smoother just by changing the ECT sender.
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    Thank You for that Information, Matt!
    When I get a Day off from Work, I'll try replacing it.

    I disconnected it, to Test it, and it sent a "15" code...
    so I thought that it wasn't the problem... but you are telling
    me that it might just be weak.

    I'll let ya know the results, when I replace it.


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    I dont think OBD lets you do this but with OBD II you can see what the PCM reads as the engine temperature.

    Mine was reading 4* to low. Misfired when cold as a result.

    If the car has a FPR i'd suggest putting vacuum on it. Although that would result in misfires regardless of running temp.

    Also does this vehicle have a vacuum advance?
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    Well, I replaced the Coolant temp. sensor, and it still
    runs like crap when Cold. :-(
    It doesn't throw a code.

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    Did you tap on your MAF when its acting up?
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    I'm wondering if a plugged Cat. could be my problem??
    It has the original Cat. on it.
    ??????
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    you could unbolt the downpipe and see how it runs.
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