Thread: Subframe mount change?

i have been having an issue lately when stepping on gas or braking i am hearing a clunking noise under passenger side around feet area, i changed the engine mount(was bad.. leaked everywhere)/dogbones/and trans mount but the noise still is continuing.

i got under there and seen the subframe mounts in that area

here is the driver side and passenger side of the mounts on subframe the passenger side has all that hydraulic fluid from old Engine mount
Driver Side Imgur links Passenger Side

im assuming these are to be changed for that "Clunk noise" what is best options to get this done if this is the case? take subframe off completely? i tried getting it off with it up and it wasnt come out easy on passenger side

Before jumping into subframe mounts, have you looked at the lower control arms? These are known to "clunk" when the bushings get worn. Easy change since you can buy the entire arm with ball joint installed.

If it is indeed a subframe mount, you should be able to drop the rear of the cradle and sneak them out. Search the forum here and see what you can find. If you can't find anything on it let us know. Sometimes the search sucks, lol.

Originally Posted by jeepers

here are a few discussions that should help. All in all, not a difficult job.
subframe bushings (grandprixforums.com)
subframe bushing removal? Help.... (grandprixforums.com)
subframe bushings (crossmember?) clunk, finding parts, etc. (grandprixforums.com)
2001 grand prix subframe bushings - google search

thank you much for this!!!!

I'm going to be replacing my rear ones while the engine is out so I'd like to see how this one goes.

Originally Posted by FordMan77

I'm going to be replacing my rear ones while the engine is out so I'd like to see how this one goes.

working on it just need to get the time to get to it between working lol
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Oh I get that. New engine still sitting on the floor while getting some $ for a rebuilt trans so I have time, lol.

Originally Posted by idrivejunk

Check to see if your subframe bolts are tight. The bushings are fine.

I'd have to write a small novel here to explain. I do have pics but not a site to host them.

The oil soaked rubber that is peeling off is inconsequential.

​Just lay down and reach under the car with an 18mm and tighten the bolts, you'll see.

the back is tight forsure i have yet to check the front ones

Originally Posted by idrivejunk

Trans shop left mine loose and one rear eventually fell out before I figured it out. I was going to replace mounts also but found upon further inspection that oh... despite the oil soaking the originals are in fine shape. Just the lip of the metal shell rusts and that rubber around it comes loose but the meaty mount part is fine. Not worth the hassle to replace.

​I say tighten them with car on ground because if you were to jack it up by the front of subframe that may compress the fronts more and be misleading. Theres a sleeve in the bushings so tight is tight but well on the ground is easiest.

So I'm looking at them right now and they all tight...

Now I'm wondering if it's the damn engine mount I just put in and the fluid that I thought was from the old one still coming out is not from the old one I just never had a way to properly get up there with a pressure washer to clean it all out so I thought it was all the old fluid

Does anybody make another engine mount that's not hydraulic still I looked at ZZP and they don't sell that anymore do you guys know of any other one?