Thread: 4th transmission

Results 1 to 3 of 3
  1. #1 4th transmission 
    SE Level Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    FL
    Posts
    52
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    1999 GRAND PRIX GT 165,000 miles. I just had the 4th transmission put in at a cost of $2800.00 3 year warranty. The car was shifting very hard and a whining noise could be heard upon acceleration. I went to a rebuild transmission shop and my general mechanic. The rebuild guy wanted to take it apart and see what was needed replacing and my mechanic suggested a remanufactured trans. I went with the remanufactured one and after the install the mechanic called me and said the transmission was still shifting hard. He then did some further diagnostics and found a wiring problem from the PMC to the transmission. By the way I still hear the whining noise. I may have just not noticed it before the transmission started shifting hard.
    The reason for this post is that upon some Google research a problem with the wiring between the PMC and the transmission is common with the Grand Prixes, resulting in hard shifting. I believe I just threw $2800.00 away.
    No codes showed up on the check engine light and neither mechanic did a scan for stored codes. A word of advice if you are experiencing hard shifts with your transmission go to an electrical shop first with good scanning equipment first before going to a transmission or mechanic. I don't believe my mechanic was trying to rip me off but was just lazy and did not do due diligence. Kelleys Blue Book says my trade in value is $1000.00 and retail sale price is $2000.00. I have way too much money now invested in this car to ever sell it. New air compressor $800.00 3 months ago plus new tires, wheels and struts and springs . I will just drive it into the ground. Boy do I feel stupid.
    Just thought someone out there could benefit from my experience.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  2. #2 Re: 4th transmission 
    GTX Level Member hensleya1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Beavercreek, OH
    Posts
    1,053
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    I paid ~150 for my last a/c compressor (although admittedly not including freon). And for $2800 you could have a performance trans from TEP built and likely installed with enough left for a kegger afterwards. You got had from here all the way to pacoima.

    That said, I once had a car that had a bad turbine speed sensor, p0717, that caused fourth gear to have a mind of its own (it would work sometimes).

    When the trans was heated up (trans temp above ~200 or so), it would start popping into gear. It was a bad PCS solenoid that acted funny when the trans got hot so the PCM would command max line pressure. The band aid solution for that was just to tune for a lower operating temperature (~185 degrees and the trans never acted up again).
    2003 GT Limited Edition 199k - The $600 winter beater.
    2004 Buick LeSabre 172k - Top Swapped, 3.5 pulley, 1.9 rockers, SLP headers... still slow...
    MAKE AMERICA FAST AGAIN!
    Reply With Quote  
     

  3. #3 Re: 4th transmission 
    Donating Users NotEnoughGPs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Posts
    234
    Thanks (Received)
    2
    Likes (Received)
    4
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Having driven GP's for 15 years now, I seen my share of transaxle problems.
    You state that it is important to find the right shop/mechanic to do repairs on your GP. I would always be careful trusting repairs to a shop/mechanic who is strictly looking for profit in repairing your car. I have horror stories to tell about how I spent thousands of dollars since 1999 to have work done on the GP's I have owned.
    I would say to keep writing to this forum each and every time you have an issue with the GP. Tons of help on here. I understand you may be in a position that you cannot do the work on your car yourself, so that makes it difficult. At least, by doing searches on GPF and asking questions, you can keep a close eye on a shop as they do work on your car. Always question them in everything they do.
    What hensleya1 mentioned is so true: for $2800, you could have gotten a high performance trans that you would never have trouble with again, and had money left over.
    As for the issue with the hard shifting, I had that happen to 2 of the GP's I owned, and in each case, I had the PCM tuned so that the trans line temps were lower. I have not had they hard shifting issue since.
    Reply With Quote  
     

Similar Threads

  1. 2004 GTP transmission vs GTP Comp G transmission
    By Jordan in forum 1997-2007 4 speed Automatic (4T65E) (4T65E-HD)
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 05-06-2014, 12:33 PM
  2. Dry transmission
    By PontiacL32 in forum 1997-2007 4 speed Automatic (4T65E) (4T65E-HD)
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 01-14-2013, 07:04 PM
  3. Looking for a transmission.
    By Btownmills in forum Midwest
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 06-18-2012, 07:15 PM
  4. Transmission
    By supercharged97 in forum 1997-2007 4 speed Automatic (4T65E) (4T65E-HD)
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 04-25-2011, 06:18 PM
  5. Transmission goes bye-bye
    By FuglyGTP in forum 1997-2007 4 speed Automatic (4T65E) (4T65E-HD)
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 02-17-2009, 11:17 AM
Bookmarks
Bookmarks
Posting Permissions
  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •