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  1. #1 04 grand prix stalls above 1800rpm 
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    Hello. Im new to this forum and I'm hopping I can get some advice. Last week my car stalled on me when I was backing out of the driveway. It seems to stall when ever the RPM's get above 1800. I will idle all day until the gas runs out. I Changed the fuel filter since I have 256,000 miles on the car. I've cleaned the MAF sensor. still didn't work so I took it to a shop after they said that it was the fuel pump. So I changed that out and still does the same thing. There is no miss, studdering of any kind. It just stall when you push on the gas.
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    Hmmm

    Not the average problem here.

    Supercharged or not?
    Any work done recently before the issue occurred?
    Have you checked for a vacuum leak say at the hose to the brake booster? That elbow into the booster is a check valve and they can go bad.
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    non-supercharged. No recent work done. No I haven't checked for vacuum leaks. I was told that the catalytic converter might be plugged up.
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    It could be.. easy way to test is to remove the front O2 sensor. Wear hearing protection and don't beat it, but try and see if it stalls.
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    if you very slowly accealerate you can drive it anywhere but as soon as you give it to much gas it stalls.
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    I had this same problem on my old car it turned out to be the cam shaft position/precision sensor
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    @justinhvr1. thanks haven't thought of that. I'll have to test it.
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    I have seen this problem before

    One was a clogged cat.

    The other was a broken purple/white wire on the Crankshaft Position harness.

    A third possibility would be a bad crank sensor

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    I got the stability error everytime I stepped on it at all hard. Replaced both front hubs, PCM. it turned out to be a vac line that fell off.
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    sorry working alot. But pulled O2 sensor before cat. car still stalls. All Vac. lines seem ok. What about the Throttle Position Sensor? auto Zone says I have to buy the whole throttle body.
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    I get a similar stalling issue above 3000rpms when trying to accelerate. I'll check th vacuum line from the brake booster, but where are the other vacuum lines? I figured I should check them all out to be sure they are fine but I'm not sure where to look. Thanks for the help.
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    I found most of the vacuum lines, replaced two of them and did seafoam (in gas & vacuum line). Still have the same issue but atleast I know the vaccum lines are better and the engine is a bit cleaner. Couldn't find any leaks in any exhaust parts when the smoke from seafoaming the vacuum line was coming out the back.
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    Did you pull the tb and clean it up?
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    I didn't unbolt it but I cleaned the outside and as far back as I could reach by hand with a rag and TB cleaner about a week ago. Also, cleaned MAF Sensor & Air Filter on the CAI
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    Pull it off and make it spotless
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    If I do, do I need to use anti-seize or anything else on the bolts or the mating surface?
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    No Don't have to replace the gasket either
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    Anything specific to clean the gasket with before putting it back on or just rub off any dirt/debris on it? I'm going to have a new one with me just incase the gasket falls apart. Gonna do the TB once my gift card from Advance Auto comes in.
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    Just wipe the gasket off and reinstall.
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    Since my last post I took off TB, cleaned it, replaced the TB Gasket, cleaned the MAF Sensor. These didn't fix the misfire problem. I finally had a chance today to replace both spark plug wires I had gotten for free from MSD. They were the cylinder 4 & 6 wires, replaced them, took off all other wires and used dieletric grease on the coil & spark plug end of the wires. This fixed the misfiring issue. I'm very excited.
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