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    So, this question is likely for a seasoned tech or someone with access to the GM factory service manual ( I have some of both). A lifetime ago, I was an ASE certified tech (just not in diag).

    Primary problem = No cruise control.
    I do have a many of the pdf's from factorypdfservicemanuals.com I think it may be missing some pages but anyway...
    I do have a DVOM and full diag scan tool that displays all the data stream.

    So here is the deal, I think I may have a defective (and new) multifunction (turn/cruise) switch.
    I just replaced this switch due to the bright lights coming on when not desired (turn cancel/or on etc.)
    And now the cruise doesn't function, and the cruise did function prior to repair. (so likely a new bad switch).

    Because this R&R of the switch is so intensive (Steering wheel/Air bag removal) - I would like a 2nd opinion.

    Bright lights problem is solved. Turn signals, and all other light functions appear to be working correctly.

    DTC's = No MIL light and no current codes but there is a history code = DTC P0564 Cruise Control MultiFunction Switch Circuit.
    For this code GM repair guide gives ohm values to test for (on switch side) of the connector...To test between terminals 1 and 5.

    This is the part I have having trouble verifying, as there are three male connectors (on switch) labeled alpha and then a 2-wire (female) coming out of the switch (no ID marks found on it).
    So which are terminals 1 and 5?
    There are other DVOM tests suggested, but until I can verify the terminal numbers or take everything back apart, this would be difficult if not impossible.

    I did have trouble disconnecting this 2-wire during 1st repair and the wiring diagram says the cruise wires are PK (pink?) and GY (gray?) ....But the 2 wires on the switch are pink and black...
    Did I damage the other side of connector during removal?


    Is it just me or are these diagram colors sometimes wrong??? (seen it b4)

    Testing and details so far....

    The 2amp cruise switch (passenger dash side) is ok.

    The brake lights work and the data stream shows TCC/Cruise Brake pedal released.

    Datastream "Cruise" = disabled

    Datastream "Cruise Inhibit Signal C" = On but next line = Fault (this sounds bad)

    Cruise Set/Coast switch = always shows "off" No matter tap or long press.

    Cruise Resume/Accel SW = always "off" No matter tap or long press.

    My scan tool doesn't record (i think) but, do I have to be at the minimum 25 mph for this to show any of these coast/resume values to change?

    The only value I have observed to change is the "Cruise On/Off switch" does seem to be operating correctly.
    (switch on = value = on) (switch off = value = off)
    If I hold the "S/C or R/A" switches the "Cruise On/Off switch value" = off and then back on when released ...this might be normal as well.

    So we know it is getting power

    Service manual says to observe the data stream when turning wheel lock to lock, if any changes, This will help eliminate the possibility of an internally shorted inflatable restraint steering wheel module coil. = No changes observed.
    And no Air Bag light on.

    I would attach pics of the datastream but I am limited to 142KB - is this, what pics today are that small?
    If you want to see them PM me with your email and I can share them via Gmail.

    Can you review and verify the wiring diagram questions?, so I can test the ohm values and verify before just putting in another switch? (and my bolded questions)?

    Any other testing you can suggest? PLEASE HELP
    2007 Pontiac Grand Prix (base) 3.8L N/A L26

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    What year? I replaced my switch/stalk on my 08 to add fog lights and don’t remember having to remove the steering wheel. It was easy and pretty cheap.


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    Look at my signature end of post.

    $70 for switch

    Easy or difficult doesn't matter.
    Throwing parts at any problem is a waste of time, money, and a bad idea IMO where testing is possible.
    That is the part i need help with.
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    people on tap talk cant see sig's. why its best to note year make model in the body of the post.

    hes got a 2007 Pontiac Grand Prix (base) 3.8L N/A L26 as per his sig.

    98 Buick Regal GS, F body brakes, Caddy STS wheels, tinted tails L36 bottom end, lightly ported heads, 1.95 roller rockers, headers, gen 5 N* 3.0 pulley, FSIC, 42 lb injectors, a BrandonHall rebuilt trans, DHP tuned and AEM water/Meth injection https://goo.gl/gpV5kW
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    I find it sad.... I searched this forum throughly before making this post. Many said check the simple things like fuses and brake light switch.
    I checked everything others suggested and when i put the detail in my post of others seasoned techs suggested... Not one of those people whom had the XP responded.

    I think you can maybe do this job w/o removing the air bag but you risk warping some of plastic components to where they won't fit back right and it can be a little more difficult especially trying to put switch bolts back in, plus I'm OCD about doing a job the right way.

    Anyway done venting.... But the 1st new switch was not really defective, it was put together wrong.... When I got another one... The cruise control plug was missing 2 out of 4 wires... Something you don't notice unless you are comparing them with a magnifying glass.

    Warranty switch fixed all the problems, it will take me a while to edit but i recorded the process for the 2nd switch and will put up a proper (per factory service manual) how to video on my YouTube channel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KCprix View Post
    I find it sad.... I searched this forum throughly before making this post. Many said check the simple things like fuses and brake light switch.
    I checked everything others suggested and when i put the detail in my post of others seasoned techs suggested... Not one of those people whom had the XP responded.
    I find it sad that you found this sad.
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