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  1. #1 Power steering pump or bad rack and pinon? 
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    I really don't want this whining to be a bad rack and pinon unit, so I'm hoping that the noise that's identical to a bad hydraulic pump really is a bad hydraulic pump. How can I tell for sure? When the RPMs drop, the steering gets more and more difficult. Steering gets easier with even idle speed (no s*, right?), but it also gets easier as the RPMs come up off of idle. All of this indicate bad pump to me, but I'd like yalls input. Thanks!

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    Whining noise is the pump. Have you checked fluid levels?
    2003 Grand Prix GTP-3.5 setup, sold it, miss it
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    I have, indeed. The last time I checked hydraulic fluid was about 3-4 days ago. It was a tad bit low, but I also know how particular these cars can be with low fluid so I brought it up to JUUUUUUUST a bit over full.

    Colleen
    : CAI, HV3, 2.5" d/p w/h/f cat. Full suspension, PowerSlots w/Hawk HPS, GR2s, Sonar projectors. Needs tune. Awaiting install of FBod brakes.
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    I'd replace the pump. If it has fluid and still whines and you're steering is stiff or agitates. They aren't that expensive, they're easy to do.
    2003 Grand Prix GTP-3.5 setup, sold it, miss it
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    Do you have your finger on the pulse of who I should be sourcing these parts from? I'm talking like Duralast or Federal-Mogul. Worry not, I will NOT use anything house brand on my cars. I see that ZZP has a unit for $45. Lol, of course, they also have the $330 electric pump, but my account and wife both say STFU on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricksgpgtcolleen View Post
    Do you have your finger on the pulse of who I should be sourcing these parts from? I'm talking like Duralast or Federal-Mogul. Worry not, I will NOT use anything house brand on my cars. I see that ZZP has a unit for $45. Lol, of course, they also have the $330 electric pump, but my account and wife both say STFU on that.
    What century are you from?? lol

    Um I bought a reman a-1 cardone pump from rockauto and it was absolute junk. I bought one from Ed Morad and it worked like a dream. Not sure on a new/reman brand worth buying
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    Forsooth, young man, what ever could you mean? LOL

    The one you got from Morad, was it a used one or does he dabble in the new stuff now?

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    Get a good OEM original pump if at all possible, the 2 "DURALAST" pumps from Autozone I have installed on my car have been junk, and I wish I had kept my factory pump and just installed new seals and orings.
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    Are the seals the only reason that these pumps go bad? Are there internals that tend to lunch themselves? How much of a PITA is it to rebuild the pump on my own?

    Colleen
    : CAI, HV3, 2.5" d/p w/h/f cat. Full suspension, PowerSlots w/Hawk HPS, GR2s, Sonar projectors. Needs tune. Awaiting install of FBod brakes.
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    The one from morad are used but they test their parts. And if it is bad they replace it without hassle.

    And if I didn't go Morad route... I would get one of the delco pumps from Rockauto either the reman or the new one. Not sure how the delco reman is compared to duralast or some crap though.
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    im using a duralast p/s pump, for the last 2 years now, it makes not a sound wheel turns like butter at idle in park.

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