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    all of the above. they are packaged as performance parts. higher standards then oem parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowNA06 View Post
    Is the quality of rubber different? Stiffness? Is the metal nicer? Are there features?
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    all of the above.
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    Irridium spark plugs last 100k mi and work just as well as copper. Copper is a waste on N/A and only lasts 15k mi. Don't use Platinum.
    Use 195* tstat unless you can thoroughly explain why not; 99.9% don't need a lower temp.
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    I went with the moogs. The moogs offer grease fittings as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowNA06 View Post
    So....



    yes.

    I'm concerned about the specific part. Seldom does everyone of a company's products top every single class. Sometimes, they're second place. Look at MSD's coil packs, for an example.

    Is the quality of rubber different? Stiffness? Is the metal nicer? Are there features?
    Their ball/socket joints aren't loose out of the box like some economy brands.

    Thats one big plus.

    I installed AC Delco advantage LCA's and within a year the BJ boots failed and the front LCA bushings were torn.

    Moogs have held up much better thus far.

    Based on rear sway bar links: TRW ball and socket joints: not impressed. Moog: Impressed.

    Sadly all you're going to find is anecdotal evidence.

    Which will be hit and miss.

    A rig to stress test these parts is much beyond the scope of GPF and most likely most car enthusiasts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matt5112 View Post
    A rig to stress test these parts is much beyond the scope of GPF and most likely most car enthusiasts.
    ...a pneumatic vibrator? Yeah, I realize there's not going to be any hard data here, but when someone just says "do this," their opinion is useless. If someone says "buy the part because the ball joints seem to last years longer" then there's some usefulness.
    Irridium spark plugs last 100k mi and work just as well as copper. Copper is a waste on N/A and only lasts 15k mi. Don't use Platinum.
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    my father has used moog as long as hes been working on cars and so have i all of my supension parts are from moog. even the sway bar chassis mount bushing and the front sway bar liks are high quality bushings and hardware. so when ever i get the money i will be getting the moogs from rock auto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowNA06 View Post
    Has anyone found any actual difference in quality/performance/durability between the brands, or do they just like barking a name like a troupe of trained seals? It's too darn hard for me to tell from online pictures. The only person I might know of that has seen a reasonable amount of control arms is Mike Kopstain. Think we might get his opinion?
    I have dormans too, but a friend on ClubGP bought a pair and the welds broke after only a couple months. Maybe it was just a bad set but he re-tunred them and got MOOGs

    I dont know where your finding MOOGs only $10 more Doug

    edit............

    Looks like there's some cheaper R-series now.
    Federal-Mogul's Moog Brand Launches R-Series Control Arm Line: aftermarket News

    Dont know how those compare to the $80+ per side MOOG ones.
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    Buy one moog and one dorman and let us know how they hold up after a year or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottydoggs View Post
    its all in the bushings they make, they have been of higher quality over stock for ever.
    moogs quality went downhill for the past few years, chinese crap. so thats why i said dorman. why pay 10 bucks more for another chinese phail?
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    The ball joint on the Moog LCAs are better As far as the actual LCA itself, it's probably about the same.

    Plus aren't the Moogs grease-able?
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    rock auto. moogs are 49 either side and the dormans are 41 either side. and the ball joints are greaseable. I personaly havent seen any diffrence in quality.

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    with vs cam ported heads and blower.
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