new rear 6x9 speaker question and suggestions

**des19** · 06-08-2013

Hi,

I recently heard a little crackling coming from my rears (04 gtp with monsoon) and after checking and pushing down slighlty on the speaker it makes some noise while the other rear doesn;t so im guessing it needs replacing.

I have pioneer deck ,sub,amp fir sub all hooked up with stock speakers. my question if i buy aftermarket rears 6x9 will it be as easy as just swapping out the rears i.e just reconnecting new speakers??

im looking at these speakers u guys can check the specs on them see if they would work thanks!

Pioneer A-Series 6" x 9" 4-Way Coax Car Speakers (TS-A6985R) : 6"x9" Speakers - Future Shop

**dsmuts** · 06-08-2013

Yep they just swap in. I put a stock one in my comp g out of my 98 and just spliced the wires and hooked it up and it sounds a lot better than the crackly buzzing sound the old one made.

**des19** · 06-08-2013

What about for after market speakers same type of deal? Just swap them in? Thanks

**Scottydoggs** · 06-08-2013

Originally Posted by des19

What about for after market speakers same type of deal? Just swap them in? Thanks

i did the same, cut the factory plugs off solder in the new speaker plugs, they bolt in using the same screws, direct replacement. doors and rear deck.

i added a 500 watt amp and 12 inch sub to the factory radio, gives it that bump and fuller sound vs just speakers.

**des19** · 06-08-2013

So will the link I have be a direct swap?

**Scottydoggs** · 06-08-2013

your all good. they are the same 6x9 in the rears, 5 1/2 for the front doors at least for the older cars. direct replacement of the stock speakers, they are the same shape use the same screws you took out to remove the old ones.

you do have to remove the back seat and the rear deck cover, then the plastic mounts the speakers are screwed to.

**des19** · 06-08-2013

Okay thanks!

**rynoman03** · 06-08-2013

If you want a fuller sound go for 6x9 Components. However what you have listed will work. I'm just picky when it comes to my audio selections. Also i'm not sure what OHM that monsoon amp is pushing to those speakers. You might look into that.

If you want factory replacements hit up Morad Parts Company - 3800 Motors, Transaxles, & Stock Parts and see if they have any in stock from salvaged cars.

**des19** · 06-08-2013

i don't really like the monsoon speakers so pioneers would be better route i think since all my other stuff is pioneer (HU,sub amp,subs)..Does anyone know how i would go about wiring the new speakers? I have read a bit and even crutchfield says i would need to splice wires to bypass factory amp? how do i physically do this lol

**rynoman03** · 06-08-2013

Well if you want to bypass the factory amp you'd have to A find out where the wiring from the radio is running to and unhook from the input to the factory amp and splice in new line to your speakers from there or B run all new wiring from the HU to the new speakers. Sometimes Option B is easier. Or C get a 4 channel amp and run all new wiring to the speakers. I have a 4 channel amp personally and have new wires ran to all of my speakers. But I am also running all component speakers with my Crossovers in the trunk.

**des19** · 06-08-2013

is it not possible to just use the existing wiring set up thats in place with the rear monsoon speaker so basically just unhooking the monsoons and attaching that wire right to the new speakers? Starting to seem more difficult now. I do have a 700 watt max older kenwood 4 (might be 2 channel i forget) channel amp I could use possibly...

**des19** · 06-08-2013

???

**rynoman03** · 06-08-2013

Is this not what I just wrote my friend...

"If you want to bypass the factory amp you'd have to A find out where the wiring from the radio is running to and unhook from the input to the factory amp and splice in new line to your speakers from there"

IE you gotta find where the line into the amp is... Splice around it ie take the wires going into the amp and extend them to the outbound wires going out of the amp.

**des19** · 06-09-2013

i think i just got confused..so basically what i said (direct replacement) is what you said (finding where the wires meet the factory amp from current monsoons and splicing into these wires and routing back to new speakers)

this is what im getting out of it anyways!

**Trann14** · 06-09-2013

Just to clear up some confusion, the speakers in a factory monsoon system are actually bi-amped, where they have two sets of inputs going to each speaker. They use the 6x9 as a woofer for the lows and then have the tweeter for high frequencies. If f you were to hook up a new speaker with only one set of inputs on it, you would have to chose between only low or high frequencies. This is why Crutchfield is saying to splice into the rear speaker wires before they go into the amp. Before they amp there is only two rear speaker wires, where as after the amp there is four wires. Since the amp is underneath the rear deck pad and you have to remove that anyways to replace the speakers, just replace them and then figure out which wires are the rear speakers before the amp and run those to the new speakers. Will sound much better than the factory monsoon speakers. If you want it to sound even better then you could run those wires to an amp and then back to the rear speakers.

**des19** · 06-09-2013

ah okay makes more sense now that i know it has 4 wires. I have 2 12" subs so I don't need 6x9s as a woofer.

Last questions lol. So if i wanted to do the splice into before the facory amp method, would i have to actually cut the speaker wires before factory amp off while leaving one end open while the other cut end goes to new speakers or would I 'tap into' these 2 wires?

Also would wiring the 2 new speakers directly to the head unit (pioneer avh5700dvd 50w built in amp i beleive) make it sound any better?

If I do direct to HU wiring I want to be sure this is better for sound wise than using the factory monsoon amp. i.e will it be louder etc.

**Trann14** · 06-09-2013

You can either cut the wires before the amp, or just tap onto them without cutting them. Then run that wire directly into your new speaker. Since it is before the monsoon amp it will be running directly off head unit power and sound way better. Depending on what head unit you have it may even have a built in crossover for the rear channel. If you ever plan to sell the car or anything then my advice would be to just "tap" onto the rear speaker wires before the amp, and leave the wire that comes out of the factory amp alone with the speaker plug on the end still. This will make it easier to install the factory speakers again if you ever want to.

**des19** · 06-09-2013

so ther eis no need to run wire all the way directly to the head unit it is basically the same thing. I think I am going to go the tap into method.

thanks!

**kurupt305** · 07-10-2013

Originally Posted by Scottydoggs

your all good. they are the same 6x9 in the rears, 5 1/2 for the front doors at least for the older cars. direct replacement of the stock speakers, they are the same shape use the same screws you took out to remove the old ones.

you do have to remove the back seat and the rear deck cover, then the plastic mounts the speakers are screwed to.

what color wires are you connecting to your pos and to your neg

**Scottydoggs** · 07-10-2013

what i did was look at the old speaker, where the wires attach to the speaker, each one has a different shape one smaller then the other, the new speaker also has the same tabs, one small one larger, move the wires to the same place as they were on the old speaker.

then i used solder and shrink tubes to connect the new pig tails form the new speakers to the factory wires. you need to cut the factory plugs off.