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    hi guys, on the build thread on here... on how to mod ur LIM and s/c for an intercooler ....it said that grinding down the "H-bar" helps with the cooling of the s/c i guess.

    is this still an accurate/proven/good mod to do?

    i dont want to do it and lose boost or something gets messed up. ive searched around, seen alot of videos and havent seen anyone showing how to do, or posting about this mod.

    its a 2004 gtp xpz cam, head work, zzp hd trans, full sized intercooler, i just cut the LIM open, and some big O 22s that spin like **** that make all these mods non extistent lol
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    Leave the outlet of the gen v alone.


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    Maybe get rid of your 22s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nos4blood70 View Post
    Maybe get rid of your 22s.
    They be just for summer really soon or if I find some lightweight 19s...they will get sold..trust me the look good but are annoying
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    Get stock wheels with a good tire.

    Like power said leave the GenV alone.

    Only thing that might help is smoothing up the inlet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blueguy View Post
    Get stock wheels with a good tire.

    Like power said leave the GenV alone.

    Only thing that might help is smoothing up the inlet.
    stock wheels but so tiny....ewww lol ....jk ....bet thanks, shaving that bar didnt seem right.....yea im def going to smooth it out with the dremel
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    I always thought removing the h bar was good for intercooling
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    Quote Originally Posted by SgtMarshal View Post
    I always thought removing the h bar was good for intercooling
    wish someone would step in and explain why it is or why its not ......im thrown off by it because i read in other thread that air being forced through the port is not going to change direction going through the ports so im "guessing" that means the air is going to shoot straight down through the intercooler into the LIM, before it would have a chance to float over into the area pass the h-bar

    on the other hand im thinking its more about more of the intercoolers surface area being available to the incoming air...and regardless of the air pushing through at one end of the supercharger...the incoming air will be subject to a lower temp due to more available intercooler in that outlet............

    iono someone explain it to me
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    Pretty sure you do remove the H-Bar when intercooling. I've seen it multiple times.

    Here's a write-up that even shows removing the H-Bar:
    http://www.grandprixforums.net/threa...BS-Intercooler

    *As a side note, remove the 22's. Get 18 or possibly a 19 inch rim. Anything over 20's on these cars, look like ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanPrixGTP View Post
    Pretty sure you do remove the H-Bar when intercooling. I've seen it multiple times.

    Here's a write-up that even shows removing the H-Bar:
    http://www.grandprixforums.net/threa...BS-Intercooler

    *As a side note, remove the 22's. Get 18 or possibly a 19 inch rim. Anything over 20's on these cars, look like ass.

    im def going get them 19s ..i agree i was pressed for them a year ago and then i was like wtf u can roll a small bowling ball under this thing if the exhaust was removed smh.....

    i seen this thread i just wanted to be sure cause ive only seen that one thread...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanPrixGTP View Post
    Pretty sure you do remove the H-Bar when intercooling. I've seen it multiple times.

    Here's a write-up that even shows removing the H-Bar:
    http://www.grandprixforums.net/threa...BS-Intercooler

    *As a side note, remove the 22's. Get 18 or possibly a 19 inch rim. Anything over 20's on these cars, look like ass.
    You sure? This is a Gen V we're talking about, not a Gen III.

    Edit: It's a Gen V in the write up, so I dunno.
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    Removing it just opens it up a bit.. You could do either or


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    Quote Originally Posted by REDCOMPG View Post
    Removing it just opens it up a bit.. You could do either or


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    have you done it? ill take your word since we have the same model
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    Not on my personally I'm not IC yet. If you look at the sc and then the IC all it's doing is opening it up a bit in theory should increase the cooling of the IC.. In reality who knows how much of a difference it really makes.


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    In reality though removing the bar can hurt absolutey nothing. If you have a means to do it then do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macksauce View Post
    stock wheels but so tiny....ewww lol ....jk ....bet thanks, shaving that bar didnt seem right.....yea im def going to smooth it out with the dremel
    Yeah, tiny.

    And much easier on the transmission...along with all that weight you're removing.

    Not to mention your speedo would be correct if you didn't reset the PPM in the tune.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blueguy View Post
    Yeah, tiny.

    And much easier on the transmission...along with all that weight you're removing.

    Not to mention your speedo would be correct if you didn't reset the PPM in the tune.
    Your def right imma prolly going do 18 19 tho ..wanta upgrade brakes in the future
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    Quote Originally Posted by 91parkave View Post
    In reality though removing the bar can hurt absolutey nothing. If you have a means to do it then do it.
    Thanks for that vote of confidence ...I'm already grinding away ...it takes waaaaayyyy to long using a dremel
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