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  1. #1 Effects of Synthetic Fluids on my S/C GTP 
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    I was just wondering what kind of performance I can gain by switching over to synthetics in my 2001 GTP. Also are there any seals/gaskets etc. that are not compatible with synthetics?
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    While various manufacturers of synthetic lubricants have done dyno test and have shown about 3 - 7 hp gains (depending on engine) from switching to synthetics, I would not switch over to a synthetic motor oil solely on that premise.

    To answer your question about seals and gaskets, no, there are none in modern engines that are incompatible. I think you'd have to go back to the early 70's or so before you'd find any engines that had those kinds of issues and thats assuming they are still running OEM gaskets and seals.

    You'll hear reports also that switching from conventional to synthetic and not being able to switch back and vice versa, and those are all nonsense. You can switch back and forth to your hearts content.

    Hopefully that info will help you out some.
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    I run royal purple in mine but it expensive as hell, but supposed to be one of the best. The thing I dont like about it is the only way you can tell it is starting to wear and burn up is buy smelling it because it is purplish black to begin with. I'll probably just go back to Mobile! synthetic due to the cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uno99 View Post
    I run royal purple in mine but it expensive as hell, but supposed to be one of the best. The thing I dont like about it is the only way you can tell it is starting to wear and burn up is buy smelling it because it is purplish black to begin with. I'll probably just go back to Mobile! synthetic due to the cost.
    Lol, smell and color have nothing to do with an oil's health anyway. The only way to really tell is to have it analyzed. If an oil is dark, that's good since it's picking up and suspending carbon that would otherwise turn to sludge. Cracks me up when people say "my oil turns dark fast, so I have to change it often".
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    IMO I used royal purple in my 05 GTP. I had ALOT more done to that car and LOVED the royal purple. When I got the 07 I changed all fluid and added Royal purple. I went to have my oil changed before a road trip and it was about 500miles away from being 3,000 and the Tech guy asked when is the last time I changed my oil!! He said it looked as if I hadn't changed my oil in a good 6K miles! So im not sure if I got some bad oil or what. But I went back to Mobile 1 Syn. I know he was not bs'in me because he is my uncle! LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jess3103 View Post
    IMO I used royal purple in my 05 GTP. I had ALOT more done to that car and LOVED the royal purple. When I got the 07 I changed all fluid and added Royal purple. I went to have my oil changed before a road trip and it was about 500miles away from being 3,000 and the Tech guy asked when is the last time I changed my oil!! He said it looked as if I hadn't changed my oil in a good 6K miles! So im not sure if I got some bad oil or what. But I went back to Mobile 1 Syn. I know he was not bs'in me because he is my uncle! LOL.
    The key word in that sentence is "looked". Royal Purple isn't a conventional oil and you can't treat it like one. You can't look at the oil to see if it needs changed. The best way to know if a synthetic oil needs changed is to have it analyzed. Or just change it at regular intervals. But synthetic oils can go much longer oil change intervals than 3000 miles. So first, there was no reason your oil needed changed when you changed it. Second, you can't just look at a synthetic oil to see if it needs changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zef_66 View Post
    Second, you can't just look at a synthetic oil to see if it needs changed.
    You can't do that with any motor oil.
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    Well I know I ALWAYS change my oil on or before 3K. Always have and will always try to keep it that way. He owns his own performance shop and thats why I just go by what he says. It was the third or fourth time I have taken one of my cars to him. Its pretty easy to change oil in a gp but I was in a hurry and needed to get tires checked and stuff. All I know is he said it didn't look like it was "holding up". I know he stands by royal purple too. He deals with ALOT of it. And I was always told if the oil smells burnt or is milky its bad...Or if its very thin. But I dont think in this "thread" it matters if you can look at oil and say its bad. Just a matter of opinion. I just know I used royal purple in the 05 and loved it. Didn't like it in the 07.
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    If its milky, thats coolant in the oil.

    If its thin (and thats a very subjective measurement) you probably has some amount of fuel dilution, but in most cases if you can tell its effect on the oil visually then its WAY past the danger point.

    Lastly, different motor oils react differently from engine to engine, even engines of the same type, configuration and so on. You could take L67 engine #100 and L67 engine #101 directly off the assembly line and put the same identical oil in them and drive the cars in identical fashions and in identical conditions and they will wear and react in completely different ways. The only real way to tell how well or how bad a motor oil is holding up in an engine is with oil analysis. Anything other than that is speculation at best.
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    ^^^^ word
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    is royal purple available in canada becuase i havn't had any luck finding it.
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