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  1. #1 Installing LS7/Comp OE-R Lifters 
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    I will be installing these soon and want to do this correctly the first time.

    I will be using comp reusable rocker bolts,

    zzp 6.95"-5/16" pushrods (i just bought 7.05" stock length, but zzp says that will be too much preload for LS7 lifters.

    i have cometic .052" head gaskets, which is .010" thinner

    heads are milled .005"

    stock rockers

    stock valves

    nic cam


    do i set lifters on base circles or does it matter if they are open or closed with these engines? Then after that, what about preload. what torque + * of turn

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    soak them in oil a day or 2 before you throw them in. I think the bolts get torqued to 25 ft#
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    thats it?? dont have to set lifters on base circle of cam lobe then torque? what about when zzp website says 1/4-3/4 turn
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    I just torqued the bolts down then turned the motor over a few times and then rechecked the torque. You'll have to check the preload on them though.
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    It's a good idea to soak then like dsmuts said or sometimes they will be loud until the oil soaks them.


    Just install them with the oil passage hole facing the same way so they wear evenly.
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    You can't adjust preloaded without adjustable rockers. Torque the rocker bolts to specs and make sure you have the correct pushrod length for your preload. There is literally nothing else you can do without adjustable rocker arms.
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    It is also worthless to soak the lifters in oil. That does nothing besides coat them. I always recommend the you pull the fuel pump fuse and crank the motor in spurts for about a minute total to get oil pressure built up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTPpower View Post
    You can't adjust preloaded without adjustable rockers. Torque the rocker bolts to specs and make sure you have the correct pushrod length for your preload. There is literally nothing else you can do without adjustable rocker arms.
    I always wondered this before I did my rockers. People were telling me about preload being important on aftermarket lifters and telling me about torque on the rocker bolts... and I would wonder, how do you adjust preload if you're torquing the rocker bolts to a specific number without any other variable on the rockers... it seems like either you torque them to 25, or torque them differently to adjust the preload, which didnt make sense to me.

    So, I cranked them down to 25 and it was happy.

    Thanks for clearing that up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TEK310 View Post
    zzp 6.95"-5/16" pushrods (i just bought 7.05" stock length, but zzp says that will be too much preload for LS7 lifters.
    Can anyone verify this? I bought intense rods and the 6.95" wasn't even an option. I will be installing stock length rods on LS7 lifters this weekend. I would love to know.

    Thank y'all...
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    I am running the stock pushrods on ls7 lifters...
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    Quote Originally Posted by slimguns View Post
    Can anyone verify this? I bought intense rods and the 6.95" wasn't even an option. I will be installing stock length rods on LS7 lifters this weekend. I would love to know.

    Thank y'all...
    What can? And have you had the heads machined any?
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    Stock cam, my heads will be looked at to see if they need to be shaved or not before re install.
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    You have your motor apart and you're not camming it?
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    I'm .015" thinner due to milled heads and thinner head gaskets.

    I don't know what I should do
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    You're supposed to check the length required with an adjustable pushrod (Pushrod length checker). Then order the correct length so you get your preload in the acceptable range, and have your rockers torqued to spec. You can also shim your rocker pestles if you need slightly less preload. It's not ideal, but it's cheaper than adjustable rockers or custom pushrods. Go with the closest pushrod, and shim if you have to.

    Off topic: I ended up trashing my LS7 lifters somehow. They pumped up and locked at full height. Keeping my valves open. Car ran like a bag. Since the chance of 12 lifters all failing at once are slim to none, I presume I ****ed up using them with an XP cam and stock pushrods. Installing shorter pushrods did not help me any as they would pump up and measure differently. By the time the engine would cool down and I'd get the LIM/Blower off, they'd leak down to the "proper" height.

    Again, very likely I ****ed up somehow, but still very frustrating as it was supposed to be a weekend job.
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    A local guy did XP cam with LS7 lifters and had to go with shorter pushrods. His preload was too much.
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    I've got an xp cam, ls7 lifters, stock pushrods, and about .010" milled from the heads. Probably about 30k miles on that setup.
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    i think im gonna end up getting the 6.95" pushrods to be safe
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    Why not get the comp cam tool and measure first before you spend the money and get stuck with a set you can't use?
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    Does anybody even make adjustable rockers for our cars??
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