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  1. #1 500 RPM idle, running rich, missfire... 
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    Bought a 99 GTP needed some work, replaced the rear o2, whole throttle body including sensors and the battery, no codes being thrown off, any ideas?
    I have also noticed that when I put it in reverse and I get on it the lights also dim, could this be an alt problem? Would it cause all this?



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    Vac leak? Start spraying the lim with carb cleaner to see if the idle picks up
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    Why would you replace the rear o2? It does nothing.
    98 GTP modded 1.9's, sd headers, 3.4", zzp 1.0 230K miles scrapped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsmuts View Post
    Why would you replace the rear o2? It does nothing.
    Because one wire was torn up and it was throwing a code
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    Need a little more info. Are you getting front O2 and map signals?
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    I'm not sure how to check for that, I don't have any codes being thrown off since I replaced the rear o2.
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    Take a look at them on a scanner. Map should move as the throttle % changes. O2's should be bouncing up and down after 10 seconds or so of starting.

    A low O2 reading means the heater isn't working and it's reading lean, so the pcm dumps fuel. Map not reading can also fudge up fueling pretty bad.
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    I did notice that it takes a while for it to warm up also when I accelerate the temp gauge reads that its getting colder.....
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    If you're coolant temp sensor is bad it'll run like crap. The motor will dump fuel because it thinks it's colder than it is
    98 GTP modded 1.9's, sd headers, 3.4", zzp 1.0 230K miles scrapped.
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    Gotcha... I will check that, where is it located?
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    Should be sticking out of the LIM at an angle right near/below the thermostat housing on the LIM.

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    Thank you, I will take a look at that
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    Use a real gauge that tells you your temp. Mine was acting up and telling the car it was -11* and the car ran bad and idled high.
    98 GTP modded 1.9's, sd headers, 3.4", zzp 1.0 230K miles scrapped.
    04 Comp G zzp stb's, UMI ta's, Speedbuilt sways, bully flo heads, XP, zzp headers, fsic, thrasher shift kit, 60#, 2.6" corsa 2.5", Inferno hood
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    Looks like a bad Tstat, and waterpump+ LIM are leaking
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