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    So i removed the front valve covers and and removed the rockers and then tightened them back down to see if all the valves wold open and they all did. But the car still wont start....could compression be a result?? I installed the heads correctly and in sequence but could they be the problem also?
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    Well if all of the valves are opening when you tighten the rockers down, there is probably an issue with the lifters.

    If all the valves are open, you'll get no compression, and it wont start.
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    You have a picture of the timing dots?
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    No picture but i had the engine on a stand and made sure the dots aligned up perfectly. Double roller Timing set w/balancer gear removed and double ed the cover gaskets.



    Matt so should i tear apart the upper part of the engine again and check the lifters?
    Gen V, 3.0, Stage 2 heads, XP Cam, SD Headers, N*, LQ4, ZZP Stage 2 Gen 3 Intercooler, CAI, AL 104's Gapped to .055, #130 Springs, 42.5lb Injectors, ZZP Tune.

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    I don't want to be the one to tell you to do it, namely because I had this happen to me.

    Never bothered to figure it out.
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    How did you resolve it?
    Gen V, 3.0, Stage 2 heads, XP Cam, SD Headers, N*, LQ4, ZZP Stage 2 Gen 3 Intercooler, CAI, AL 104's Gapped to .055, #130 Springs, 42.5lb Injectors, ZZP Tune.

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    Sold everything.

    Bought a stock car.

    Like I said, really don't want to be the guy to tell you what to do, but I'd suggest looking at the lifters.
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    Ok I have no problem tearing it back apart so in about to do that and check the lifters

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    Gen V, 3.0, Stage 2 heads, XP Cam, SD Headers, N*, LQ4, ZZP Stage 2 Gen 3 Intercooler, CAI, AL 104's Gapped to .055, #130 Springs, 42.5lb Injectors, ZZP Tune.

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    Stock or LS7 lifters will apparently tell you really quick.

    Which is strange, because you and Matt had these issues but all the locals here never did.
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    Blue mines are stock lifters.

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    Gen V, 3.0, Stage 2 heads, XP Cam, SD Headers, N*, LQ4, ZZP Stage 2 Gen 3 Intercooler, CAI, AL 104's Gapped to .055, #130 Springs, 42.5lb Injectors, ZZP Tune.

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    Stock length pushrods?
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    I would do a compression test before you tear it all apart again.

    You did remember to put oil in it, right?


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    Yes I added oil and coolant.

    Sent from my SGH-T989 using Tapatalk 2
    Gen V, 3.0, Stage 2 heads, XP Cam, SD Headers, N*, LQ4, ZZP Stage 2 Gen 3 Intercooler, CAI, AL 104's Gapped to .055, #130 Springs, 42.5lb Injectors, ZZP Tune.

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    Hitman also had the lifters go fubar. Seems like the older lifters are the same as 3.1L motors..and we know 3.1's are full of fail.

    Compression test.
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    So I took the old lifters from the front heads out...how do I test to see if they failed or are bad?

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    Well, I'd post pics of them.

    They're pretty straight forward...they're either in craptastic shape or they work.
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    Try pushing in on them?
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    And how do I go about doing a compression test? Im not sure if this was the cause but when I took the supercharger and I/c core out....turns out some of the LIM bolts were loose even though I torqed them down.

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    If the LIM bolts weren't tight then you had a massive vacuum leak causing the no start situation.
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    You need a compression tester you can pick one up at az for $25. Maybe your torque wrench is off.
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