Thread: Tell me the truth about L32 Connecting Rods

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 34
  1. #1 Tell me the truth about L32 Connecting Rods 
    I live here. SyntheticShield's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Oklahoma
    Posts
    8,200
    Thanks (Received)
    3
    Likes (Received)
    3
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    I have an opportunity to get some connecting rods from an L32 engine fairly cheaply. The block, crank and heads package I bought didnt have any connecting rods with it so I have to get my hands on some anyway.

    What I really need to know is whether or not its worth it to get the L32 connecting rods. Are the OEM L67 rods going to be any cheaper? I have to get connecting rods one way or another but is the cost worth it. What would a set of L67 rods run?

    Anyway, just thought I would seek the input of the community here so I can get this set up ready to go to the machine shop.

    Oh, also, please dont say so and so vendor uses this and never had a problem. The reason I say that is that I personally have no clue as to whether or not they rebuild their engines each year or what they do to those things. Id much rather hear from real world usage.

    If you were rebuilding an engine, what would drive you to use L32 connecting rods over L67 ones and vice versa.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  2. #2 Re: Tell me the truth about L32 Connecting Rods 
     

  3. #3 Re: Tell me the truth about L32 Connecting Rods 
    I live here. SyntheticShield's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Oklahoma
    Posts
    8,200
    Thanks (Received)
    3
    Likes (Received)
    3
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Well I suppose I could have but this block, crank and heads were a steal so it was kinda hard to pass up.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  4. #4 Re: Tell me the truth about L32 Connecting Rods 
    Donating Users GR8racingfool's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Wichita, KS
    Posts
    1,984
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    L32 rods are "better" as in slightly stronger than what you would find in a L67.

    No real testing has been done to prove this, but the way they are constructed is pretty much proof right there as to which one is better.

    L67 rods = cast metal
    L32 rods = powdered metal



    L32 rods when installed, the "dots" you see on the arm of the rod are directional. 1,3,5 rods, the dots face the rear of the motor, 2,4,6 the dots face the front.

    I bought my L32 rods cheap off another member way back when he was going to build him an engine, then decided to bail out. They were brand new from GM. I still have the Box's they came in, with the part numbers on them if anyone is interested.

    ~F~
    Reply With Quote  
     

  5. #5 Re: Tell me the truth about L32 Connecting Rods 
    I live here. SyntheticShield's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Oklahoma
    Posts
    8,200
    Thanks (Received)
    3
    Likes (Received)
    3
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Thanks for your input Farns. These I have an opportunity to buy are not new, but they are low mileage. According to Reptile, the L32 rods supersede the L67 ones anyway so even if I wanted to buy L67 rods new I couldnt it seems.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  6. #6 Re: Tell me the truth about L32 Connecting Rods 
    Donating Users GR8racingfool's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Wichita, KS
    Posts
    1,984
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Those rods should be fine to use no problem.

    ~F~
    Reply With Quote  
     

  7. #7 Re: Tell me the truth about L32 Connecting Rods 
    GrandPrix Junkie Sabrewings's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Barksdale AFB, LA
    Posts
    4,879
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    The L32 rods are sinter forged which makes them a decent amount stronger. Not sure about the price differential. I think L26 rods are also sinter forged, making them on par with L67 rods if not a bit stronger, but not as strong as L32 rods.
    2004 Impala LS - got some mods sold!!!
    2009 Subaru Impreza WRX STI

    NAIOA moderator Still Imp'n, just in a different Imp.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  8. #8 Re: Tell me the truth about L32 Connecting Rods 
    I live here. SyntheticShield's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Oklahoma
    Posts
    8,200
    Thanks (Received)
    3
    Likes (Received)
    3
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Well the problem I have to deal with now is that the L32 connecting rods have a different pin diameter than the L67 rods. The L67's are 0.905" and the L32's are 0.895 I believe or might even be a bit smaller. But all the forged pistons out that I can find, namely diamond pistons all have connecting rod pins for the L67's.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  9. #9 Re: Tell me the truth about L32 Connecting Rods 
    Donating Users GR8racingfool's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Wichita, KS
    Posts
    1,984
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    L32 rods and 9:5.1 Coated Diamond pistons here.

    ~F~
    Reply With Quote  
     

  10. #10 Re: Tell me the truth about L32 Connecting Rods 
    I live here. SyntheticShield's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Oklahoma
    Posts
    8,200
    Thanks (Received)
    3
    Likes (Received)
    3
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Hmmm, thats odd. I wont be doing the coated pistons, but non of the information Ive seen shows that the L32 rods have the same pin diameter. Now you got me curious.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  11. #11 Re: Tell me the truth about L32 Connecting Rods 
    SE Level Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    18
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by GR8racingfool View Post
    L32 rods are "better" as in slightly stronger than what you would find in a L67.

    No real testing has been done to prove this, but the way they are constructed is pretty much proof right there as to which one is better.

    L67 rods = cast metal
    L32 rods = powdered metal



    L32 rods when installed, the "dots" you see on the arm of the rod are directional. 1,3,5 rods, the dots face the rear of the motor, 2,4,6 the dots face the front.

    I bought my L32 rods cheap off another member way back when he was going to build him an engine, then decided to bail out. They were brand new from GM. I still have the Box's they came in, with the part numbers on them if anyone is interested.

    ~F~


    Sorry to dig this up but which way do the rods actually go?


    Here in post 11 you say the opposite.
    http://www.grandprixforums.net/insta...l67-19438.html


    Im building an L36 with L32 rods and pistons.

    Lol ive had 4 different answers. Ive had all dots face the front. Biggest chamfer on big end of rods face nearest main cap (Which is the way ive installed). All dots face the rear. Bearing tangs to the pan rail.

    The reason ive come across this problem is that i built the motor but didnt balance the bottom end. I decided to pull it all down and get a full balance which i did.

    While putting the pistons back on the rods i noticed the small ends of the rods were touching the inside of one side of the pistons on the radius that has been machined. Its actually worn a little of it off while turning the motor over dialing in the cam.

    When looking down on the assembly when the bottom end is installed i can see that the rod is not quite in centre of the wrist pin which makes me think that the rods are slightly offset from face to face ultimately making me think that the rods are the wrong way around.

    So confused now lol.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  12. #12 Re: Tell me the truth about L32 Connecting Rods 
    GTX Level Member tayl5645's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    1,022
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Holy crap what is up with people resurrecting dead threads lately?
    2005 GTP Grey

    Custom built Open cone intake, 15% tints all the way around, 7" touchscreen DVD player
    Reply With Quote  
     

  13. #13 Re: Tell me the truth about L32 Connecting Rods 
    Bastard Reptile's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Kansas City, MO
    Posts
    3,459
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    2
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    ^this one seems to be a legitimate question. It's better to do this if you still have a concern than just starting a new thread.

    This just shows that the guy actually used the search function.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  14. #14 Re: Tell me the truth about L32 Connecting Rods 
    The Blue One blueguy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Dirtyzville, Missery
    Posts
    31,287
    Thanks (Received)
    1
    Likes (Received)
    2
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by tayl5645 View Post
    Holy crap what is up with people resurrecting dead threads lately?
    I don't think it's a big deal if it is a legit question like that.

    It's the people that bring up 2 year old kill story or post that sounds good...in exhaust threads...this however...I say is alright being brought back...it is good info as well.
    Sold WBody's: '03 Blue GTP/'98 Green GTP/'98 Silver GT/'05 GXP
    '99 Chevrolet Silverado Classic Z71 4x4 - K&N Intake/Gibson Exhaust #TRUCKTHINGS
    '12 Buick Regal Turbo - ZZP CAI/20% Tint/HID's
    '89 Ford Mustang LX Notchback - LM7 5.3, 4L80, 9", HX40
    '04 Chevrolet Corvette MRM A4/LS1 - TSP LT's, 3"O/R X, AFE S2 CAI
    Reply With Quote  
     

  15. #15 Re: Tell me the truth about L32 Connecting Rods 
    SE Level Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    18
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Thanks guys, yes its a very important question to me anyway lol. Considering how much ive put into this engine lol.

    Its just so hard to find a straight answer from anyone.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  16. #16 Re: Tell me the truth about L32 Connecting Rods 
    Donating Users GR8racingfool's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Wichita, KS
    Posts
    1,984
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by IBLOWN View Post
    Sorry to dig this up but which way do the rods actually go?


    Here in post 11 you say the opposite.
    http://www.grandprixforums.net/insta...l67-19438.html


    Im building an L36 with L32 rods and pistons.

    Lol ive had 4 different answers. Ive had all dots face the front. Biggest chamfer on big end of rods face nearest main cap (Which is the way ive installed). All dots face the rear. Bearing tangs to the pan rail.

    The reason ive come across this problem is that i built the motor but didnt balance the bottom end. I decided to pull it all down and get a full balance which i did.

    While putting the pistons back on the rods i noticed the small ends of the rods were touching the inside of one side of the pistons on the radius that has been machined. Its actually worn a little of it off while turning the motor over dialing in the cam.

    When looking down on the assembly when the bottom end is installed i can see that the rod is not quite in centre of the wrist pin which makes me think that the rods are slightly offset from face to face ultimately making me think that the rods are the wrong way around.

    So confused now lol.
    Sh!t dude, sorry, I can't remember which way it goes when I built my engine. I had my "bible" that had EVERYTHING + some helpful info in to build a 3.8 up with stock and aftermarket parts, loaned it out...some stuff never came back with it. That was one thing I had in there. To be for sure...I'd have to drop my oil pan, and that ain't gonna happen. Maybe someone else can chime in and state what way is correct.

    Reptile is a expert on the L67, L32 piston and rods, chime in buddy.

    But what I typed here sounds right to me if I had to choose. 1,3,5 rods, the dots face the rear of the motor, 2,4,6 the dots face the front.

    ~F~
    Reply With Quote  
     

  17. #17 Re: Tell me the truth about L32 Connecting Rods 
    SE Level Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    18
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by GR8racingfool View Post
    Sh!t dude, sorry, I can't remember which way it goes when I built my engine. I had my "bible" that had EVERYTHING + some helpful info in to build a 3.8 up with stock and aftermarket parts, loaned it out...some stuff never came back with it. That was one thing I had in there. To be for sure...I'd have to drop my oil pan, and that ain't gonna happen. Maybe someone else can chime in and state what way is correct.

    Reptile is a expert on the L67, L32 piston and rods, chime in buddy.

    But what I typed here sounds right to me if I had to choose. 1,3,5 rods, the dots face the rear of the motor, 2,4,6 the dots face the front.

    ~F~

    Hehe allgood dude.

    Yes that would make sense 1,3,5 dots face rear. Like i said every other rod ive ever seen has the bigger chamfer on the big end of the rod to the nearest main bearing. The dots are opposite the chamfer so that makes sense.

    Also would anyone know where i could get a set of OEM L32 rod bolts? Ive torqued them down twice now and im worried they have passed their yield stretch. The motor hasnt run yet but i think i hsould change them just incase.

    Still wouldnt mind some more input though.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  18. #18 Re: Tell me the truth about L32 Connecting Rods 
    Donating Users GR8racingfool's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Wichita, KS
    Posts
    1,984
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    I removed my L32 rod bolts, and installed ARP's.

    If you want to chance mine, your welcome to them. The rods I installed were brand new from GM, so unsure of they TTY them from the box or not. I can't remember if I really had to wrench them loose to get them off. I don't believe I did, nor would imangine GM would already tighten them form the get go.

    I installed my ARP's, into my rods, torqued them, and had the rods line bored/honed to insure they were perfectly round before they went in with the aftermarket bolts.

    I know where my bolts are if you want them, they are on my shelf of parts in the garage.

    ~F~
    Reply With Quote  
     

  19. #19 Re: Tell me the truth about L32 Connecting Rods 
    SE Level Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    18
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by GR8racingfool View Post
    I removed my L32 rod bolts, and installed ARP's.

    If you want to chance mine, your welcome to them. The rods I installed were brand new from GM, so unsure of they TTY them from the box or not. I can't remember if I really had to wrench them loose to get them off. I don't believe I did, nor would imangine GM would already tighten them form the get go.

    I installed my ARP's, into my rods, torqued them, and had the rods line bored/honed to insure they were perfectly round before they went in with the aftermarket bolts.

    I know where my bolts are if you want them, they are on my shelf of parts in the garage.

    ~F~
    They are just nipped from the factory.

    If you havent torqued them at all i'd love them! What do you want for them? You know i live in Australia dont you lol?
    Reply With Quote  
     

  20. #20 Re: Tell me the truth about L32 Connecting Rods 
    Donating Users GR8racingfool's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Wichita, KS
    Posts
    1,984
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Australia...oh ****, you do.

    Your welcome to them, as in they are free.

    I guess...pay shipping would be fair. You can PM me your addy, and I can see what they will cost to get them to you, and you can see if that's worth it to you or not.

    ~F~
    Reply With Quote  
     

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. inner tie rods
    By grreed in forum Brakes/Suspension/Chassis
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: 12-06-2009, 07:40 PM
  2. L67 Connecting Rod Length
    By SyntheticShield in forum 3.8L V6 Supercharged (L67)(L32)
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: 09-16-2008, 12:55 PM
Tags for this Thread

View Tag Cloud

Bookmarks
Bookmarks
Posting Permissions
  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •