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  1. #1 CEL problem codes, P0102, P0300, P1381 and a few more UPDATED! 
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    Yesterday when driving to my girlfriend's home I suddenly got a check engine light. I looked up the codes on my Aeroforce and got these 3 codes.

    I know the P0102 is a MAF code. I'll try cleaning it.
    The P0300 is a multiple misfire code. Ned to get my ignition checked out again.
    The P1381 code I have no idea. On different models it means different things. Any suggestions?


    I also wonder why I would get all these codes simultaneously?

    After I parked my car and came back to it 10 hours later the check engine light was gone. Might be gone for now, but I would rather figure these problems out now before they grow.
    Last edited by buickman104; 07-02-2012 at 10:07 AM. Reason: New codes came up
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  2. #2 Re: CEL problem codes, P0102, P0300, P1381 
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    how old are the plugs and wires?
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  3. #3 Re: CEL problem codes, P0102, P0300, P1381 
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    The PCM uses data from the ABS to distinguish crankshaft speed variations from actual misfires p0300. If there is a loss of communication from the wheel speed sensors while P0300 has set a MIL then P1381 will set.
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  4. #4 Re: CEL problem codes, P0102, P0300, P1381 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rico View Post
    The PCM uses data from the ABS to distinguish crankshaft speed variations from actual misfires p0300. If there is a loss of communication from the wheel speed sensors while P0300 has set a MIL then P1381 will set.
    Does that mean my crank sensor might be bad?

    plugs are Autolite104's with 5,000 miles on them and wires are PRJ with 15,000 miles. All my coil packs are new and a junkyard ICM because my last one went bad.
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    To be quiet honest I think the code (P1381) may be a fluke in your situation. Clean the MAF, run it and see what happens before you come to any conclusions.
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    Got the same combination of CEL again. This time the engine is heavily hesitating.
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  7. #7 Re: CEL problem codes, P0102, P0300, P1381 
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    Have you cleaned/replaced the MAF yet?
    It's a CUMMINS Dodge not a Dodge Cummins
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    I've cleaned it and currently looking for a replacement. could all this be caused by a bad maf?
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  9. #9 Re: CEL problem codes, P0102, P0300, P1381 
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    Yep
    It's a CUMMINS Dodge not a Dodge Cummins
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  10. #10 Re: CEL problem codes, P0102, P0300, P1381 
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    Got a good MAF from a local on NYMCGP. It worked wonderfully. Killed all my KR and I was now getting 15 degrees of timing. Last night I was driving home and the check engine light came on and now got a new medley of codes...

    P0102- MAF code AGAIN!

    P0243- Seems like a BBV malfunction code. Correct me if I am wrong.

    P0300- Mulitiple missfire- I have noticed I only get light miss fires at idle when warming the engine up. Never seen miss fires while actually driving.

    P0443- Evap Code. That's new

    I am wondering why I am getting all these codes in one shot. I am starting to suspect that maybe something might be wrong with my wiring harness. IDK anymore.
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  11. #11 Re: CEL problem codes, P0102, P0300, P1381 and a few more UPDATED! 
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    Check the pcm connections. Also the electrical connector for the maf. Scottdogger is the resisdent expert that tells us about the wires getting old and brittle over the exhaust. Your's are likely worse than most considering the under hood temps in your city car.
    I drink..so consider that when reading my posts.

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  12. #12 Re: CEL problem codes, P0102, P0300, P1381 and a few more UPDATED! 
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    That is true. That is what I was thinking too.

    Also if you remember Bill, my Maf pigtail has been changed before.
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    All I remember is you left a large hunk of aluminum at my place.
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  14. #14 Re: CEL problem codes, P0102, P0300, P1381 and a few more UPDATED! 
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    Mind shipping that hunk of aluminum with one of your spare lq 4 mafs for 50$ plus shipping? :-P
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    Checked my issue out with Enrique today. Definitely seems like an electrical problem. My boost bypass, evap, and maf seem to all be dead. Tried another maf and still nothing. For you wiring experts is there a common ground between those sensors or does anyone have a wiring harness schematic to help us make sense out of what could be wrong.
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    Here are some ground references:






    It's a CUMMINS Dodge not a Dodge Cummins
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    Went over the wiring today with a multi-meter. The pigtails to each of those sensors show no voltage. I checked other sensor pig tails and they were all fine. Tomorrow morning i plan on checking for blown fuses.
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    Got a test light and it turned out to be a blown ignition 1 15amp fuse. Changed fuse and problem solved!
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    Good thread

    Glad you got it figured out.
    It's a CUMMINS Dodge not a Dodge Cummins
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    Thanks rico, your wiring diagram helped.
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