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08-24-2008
ok so i just installed the cold air intake system from k&n although its not the right 1(they gave me the 5.3L V8 kit) i still am very impressed with the sound it now makes it just screams!! i think i gave some old ppl a heart attack when i flew by at 140kph!! the kit says it gives the v8 around 13hp at 5222rpm but this is on the S/C V6 so i dont know what gain it gives but u know u got more than u had B4!! so was it worth the $400??? F^CK YA!!!! I LOVE BOOST!!
08-24-2008
You seriously paid $400 for that thing?Originally Posted by reallyfast1
08-24-2008
ya i did but its not the right one so i find out monday what partsource is going to do about it!! so i might not have!!??
08-24-2008
See if they'll do a complete refund of your money. Not trying to sound like an ass, trying to save you a ton of money and get you a much better CAI at the same time.
For example, these two linked below are both much better CAI's and they are about half of that price.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/THRASHER-Cold-Air-Intake-Grand-Prix-GTP-Regal-97-98_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742Q2em153Q2el1262Q QcategoryZ38634QQihZ024QQitemZ370073729069
https://www.zzperformance.com/grand_prix/products1.php?id=247&catid=113
08-24-2008
Also if your thinking about a Thrasher i have some numbers on this tread regarding its cooling abilities.
08-26-2008
ya they both are nice for sure!! i like the one with the heat sheild but i can do that to the one that is on the engine !! just get a heat sheild that is sticky and stick that puppy on, what about wrapping the intake in a type of heat sheild too?? ever tryd?? but as for them being BETTER than the K&N CAI ?? and i dont trust the net, like now what if it was the wrong part?then ya u just saved money but now u gotta ship it back and possibly wait months for your money or a new intake, so thats why i bought from store i can deal with a person and if u gotta snap on someone its too there face not over the phone so im on my way up to partsource now to find out what they are going to do about the heat sheild not fitting right!! get my money or new parts!!
08-26-2008
You can put a cover on the K&N you currently have, but it's not going to be very affective at all. The K&N intake for our cars is one of the worst intakes available. There are many, much better and cheaper alternatives, and yes, those two intakes I posted above are much, much, much better than the one you have. Your intake is doing little to nothing to improve horsepower.ya they both are nice for sure!! i like the one with the heat sheild but i can do that to the one that is on the engine !! just get a heat sheild that is sticky and stick that puppy on, what about wrapping the intake in a type of heat sheild too?? ever tryd?? but as for them being BETTER than the K&N CAI ?? and i dont trust the net, like now what if it was the wrong part?
08-26-2008
and the main thing is heat. with a cross over exhuast pipe about a foot away it generates a lot of heat. your intake is pulling air from the engine bay, hot air at that, and hot air means lower performance. that is why most people recomend a box or fenderwall intake.
08-28-2008
hehe thnx guys for bringing this to my attention weeks ago, great help on helping my FWI, i cant tell too much performance but defently that problem i had in 3rd gear where my engine loosing then gaining RPMs ( very little of course, but sure feel it ) seem'ed to have halted! just wanted to say thnx again on intake info...
08-28-2008
reallyfast1- Take everyones advice that there trying to give you. Trust me...and them....
08-28-2008
I almost bought the K&N setup but then I read everything on here and all the reasons why the K&N wasn't the best setup. I went with the Wizaired and am quite pleased. It was cheaper than the K&N. I don't know who you bought yours from but you got ripped off. Everywhere I looked was $280. Listen to everyone on here. They know what they are talking about.
08-28-2008
yep and should probably change name from grand prix fourms to grand prix freaks!
09-01-2008
well again the one i got is the wrong 1 it does has the fender sheild but it doesnt fit b/c of where the rad hose is and its for the V8.. and i dont see to much difference between kits the only difference would be filter that has the restriction and the fender sheilds and the intake pipe not much difference except for the price but i know it has gained hp and a bit better hwy economy even w/o the heat sheild!! so as for the others i would have to trust the internet and well i dont!! but im also curious about premium fuel who uses what kind gas for their S/C'd engine??
09-01-2008
Alright, you know what. Your an idiot, don't come on here asking for advice from people that know these cars much better than you, then turn around and tell them that you don't trust anyone or anything from the internet when they try and point you in the right direction.
Please, by all means, keep the K&N intake and run the lowest grade fuel you can find.
09-01-2008
When you say you dont see too much difference between the kits do you mean the K&N kits or between all of the suggested intake systems? Unless you have scanned into your individual vehicle you have no idea what the differences are in any intake systems you may be trying [less mpg]. If you are going on visual basis alone then your approach is unproductive. Right now [without the heat sheild] you are running a $400 HAI [hot air intake] which a person with little mechanical experience could make for less then $50 [assuming your buying a really good filter].
Right now i would bet you have gained VERY little Hp, virually no Whp, but you have gained some MPG [as this is what most HAI setups do].
I agree with being weary with your purchases and having little trust when it comes to money. I fully agree in thinking for myself and doing my own research when it comes to spending cash on making my car faster. BUT it seems here your putting your trust in a company that already gave you the incorrect part. Also if you don't trust the internet why turn to it again for advice on what gasoline to put in your vehicle?
This is a forum, an online social gathering discussing what we think is the best cheapest way to modify our cars to the desired specifications. We DO NOT BENEFIT whatsoever [whit the exception of a few vendors] by recommending certain name brand of modifications.
That being said you could accomplish cooler temperatures with less then $250 worth of parts then you are with $400.
If you are looking to buy a CAI the best one is Wizaired Cold Air Induction System Wizaired I can recall a thread comparing the Wizaired to the competition and the wizaired kept intake air coldest in different situations. [In case you were wondering i have a Thrasher because it was free lol]. Even if money is no object to you the Wizaired is still the best bolt on CAI that i know of.
Now even though you don't trust the internet ill still waste my breath by telling you that in terms of gas your supposed to run the premium unleaded gas with your S\C 3800 series engine. The manufacturer of the vehicle recommends it and it burns more efficiently so why use anything less? People have used lower grades without incident but why take the risk.
09-01-2008
Run premium fuel ALWAYS. Yes people have gotten away with using lower octane fuel, but by running say 87 octane they are increasing their KR quite significantly. You could run 87 in your car, but I would only recommend it as long as you don't go WOT till your next fill up (meaning practically running the take dry). Read up on KR and it's effects on your engine, it may save you from blowing your **** up in the future and will give you a better grasp on how to properly mod your car.
09-01-2008
I run always run 87 with my mod list. 0 KR. And thats with a lot more timing than stock....Matter of fact i've always run 87. Even when it was stock.
09-02-2008
^^^Well you are tuned for it, and by tuned I mean you have zero KR with it.
Sure people can run 87 octane, but they will need supporting mods to make sure they don't get KR from it, or if they are currently running 91 or 93 octane and want to run 87 they will usually need go with a bigger pulley and/or reduce timing depending on their mods (meaning less power). On a stock car or even a close to stock car I wouldn't recommend running 87 though, since a lot of stock GTP's have KR anyways even with 91/93 octane. BTW when my car was stock with just a CAI it had about 6* of KR.
09-02-2008
lol at thread
09-02-2008
OK THERE U ASS HAT READ MY **** FIRST!!! FIRST OF ALL I JUST BOUGHT THIS CAR A FEW WEEKS AGO AND DIDNT FIND THIS SITE UNTIL AFTER I EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT DOING THIS ****!! SO DONT CALL ME AN IDIOT FOR DOING WHAT THE **** I WANT TO MY OWN CAR!! OH AND ITS NOT THE PPL ON THE SITE I DONT TRUST MORON ITS THE SITES THAT U ORDER THE PARTS FROM DUH!! AND I DO APPRECIATE ALL OF THIS INFO THESE PPL HAVE GIVEN ME !! AND I DIDNT KNOW ABOUT HALF OF THIS STUFF UNTIL WHAT LAST WEEK WHEN I PUT THIS POST UP!! SO EAT **** KNOB CHEESE!! AND TO ALL OTHERS THAT GAVE THE INFO ON THE INTAKES THANK YOU!! I WILL BE LOOKING INTO THEM NOW AND MOST LIKELY RETURNING THE K&N CAI B/C ITS THE WRONG 1..!!
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