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  1. #1 3.2 installed!!! 
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    So I installed it!
    Heres what happened
    The car is at 8-9PSI
    the a/f always stays at 11.8 at WOT
    In first gear I saw 1.6 KR At 6296 RPMS & 13*
    In second gear i saw 1.0 to 3.3 KR from 3976 to 5529 RPMS & timing from 14* to 9*
    After I let go of the throttle
    I see at 5000RPMS Timing going to 30.5 with KR of 4.7

    Experts! Let me know! I have more info if needed

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    Intense stage 1 blower cam
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    What tune are you on?
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    Not enough timing.
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    Was tuned in a dyno near home.
    What do you mean by not enough timing???
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    It means you're running garbage for timing at your pulley size and AFR.

    Get a new tuner.
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    The car was tuned for the 3.4 and was at 17* or 18*
    And produced 260hp & 255tq with that set up

    I wanted to try the 3.2 and see what happens

    I cannot get a new tuner! He's the only one in Puerto Rico that tunes GM.
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    If you could only get 17-18* out of a 3.4 pulley and a cam, you're doing it wrong.

    And you only made 260whp from that? The torque number surprises me more though. 255wtq?!
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    *facepalm "i wanted to try the (insert pulley size the car is NOT tuned for here) and see what happens"

    it knocks, chips pistons, and gives you a sad face. just cuz you "should" be able to and it just slaps on doesnt mean you should do it...ever./end rant
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    go back to the 3.4 with more timing. whatever will leave you with AT LEAST stock timing (16*) and no KR is what you want.

    its also too lean for a non-intercooled car. shoot for 11.4:1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio248 View Post
    go back to the 3.4 with more timing. whatever will leave you with AT LEAST stock timing (16*) and no KR is what you want.

    its also too lean for a non-intercooled car. shoot for 11.4:1.
    I was thinking that as well. 11.8 on a non-intercooled car is lean to the point of diminishing returns.
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    Ok, I asked and at another forum they told me that It can be fixed if I had low kr with a tune. Now what would you guys have me do? He's the only one in the island who can tune these cars.

    What numbers am I supposed to be seeing?
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    you need to richen it up and add timing. whatever pulley you can run with those is what you want.
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    You were tuned for the 3.4....Run the 3.4

    If you want to run a 3.2, get tuned for it.

    You should be able to run 19* timing on that 3.2 at 11.4 AFR
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    Ok, so im gonna change pulley tomorow

    What numbers am I supposed to see with the 3.4?

    And why is the torque bad?

    What can I do for a better tuner???
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    I run a 3.4 on 1.9 Rockers/LS6 springs, Headers, and Autolite 104's, on 14-17* timing -- I make 250whp/275wtq on this setup..

    Your numbers should be at the very least 20 more than what mine on both sides.
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    just cuz he can tune them...doesnt mean he CAN tune them
    04 comp G, front/rear towerbraces, pacesetters, ported sc, LIM, 3.3 pulley, 1.9 mod rockers, Ls1 springs and retainers, custom dyno tune, 180 tstat, shortned dog bones, full poly mounts, zzp shift kit, custom fwi, 28inch cherry bomb, flowmaster 40's. 290whp 380wtq before the button. coldfusion n2o, 60 shot. I haz corvette brakezand gxp cluster! smgpfc028
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    Ummm, so whats wrong then?
    Why is the tq so low?
    Whats going on?
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    The dyno isnt reading tq right probably is all it is.
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    But i went to a mustang dyno and dynoed without the tune
    233hp & 236tq

    So what can I do for this tq thing?
    And what can I do to tune?
    The guy is the only one here! And its been known to be a good tuner!
    But I dont know now!
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