Phenolic Blower spacer

**silverstreak** · 07-07-2009

Here is my question;

To: Turbo Tim
Subject: Phenolic Blower Spacer

Im interested in the blower spacer. Will I need to get injector spacers or your fuel rail to make this work?

Here is his answer;

If you get the 1” one you will need the longer bolts and the injector spacers, but if you get the ¼” one you wont need either I don’t think.

Thank you for your business,

Turbo Tim

Did everyone see the "I Don't think" at the end of his sentence?

Can someone tell me the answer being 100% positive so I know what to order from these jackasses.

Thanks

**minichopper6hp** · 07-07-2009

who is this through?

**minichopper6hp** · 07-07-2009

also, i make the spacers, and can get you one cheaper than what youre probably going to pay if your going through the zzp jokers

**silverstreak** · 07-07-2009

Originally Posted by minichopper6hp

who is this through?

Only one place could have someone named Turbo Tim who answers emails like that....zzp

**gotboost3** · 07-07-2009

LOL.... measure how much space you have between the fuel rails and blower if its a 1/4 or smaller id say you need both....if its more than you should be fine....you wouldnt need longer bolts for the 1/4 for sure...but a 1/4 inch blower spacer is pretty pointless...at least get the bigger one or save your money and buy a IC core from minichopper!

**silverstreak** · 07-07-2009

Originally Posted by gotboost3

LOL.... measure how much space you have between the fuel rails and blower if its a 1/4 or smaller id say you need both....if its more than you should be fine....you wouldnt need longer bolts for the 1/4 for sure...but a 1/4 inch blower spacer is pretty pointless...at least get the bigger one or save your money and buy a IC core from minichopper!

Yes Im def getting the 1". I have no interest in an I/C. I forwarded the email to zoomer, maybe he knows lol.

**minichopper6hp** · 07-07-2009

he probably isnt involved in the actual product development is why. check out my thread on phenolic spacer, i can do one 1/4" one for $50 and you would have to measure if the stock rails would work, i havent looked to be honest im not running stock rails anymore either

**minichopper6hp** · 07-07-2009

youre going to spend $200 on a spacer from zzp? lol ok...

**silverstreak** · 07-07-2009

Originally Posted by minichopper6hp

he probably isnt involved in the actual product development is why. check out my thread on phenolic spacer, i can do one 1/4" one for $50 and you would have to measure if the stock rails would work, i havent looked to be honest im not running stock rails anymore either

Seriously I dont care how involved he was/is with the product but to reply to my email without asking someone who knows is just bad business but it doesnt really surprise me.

**minichopper6hp** · 07-07-2009

well i hope you dont go through zzp on anything as people on here including me and TDCRACING can hook you up w/ better products for killer prices.

**minichopper6hp** · 07-07-2009

http://www.grandprixforums.net/f49/p...cer-17421.html

i bet this price beats zzp's huh?

**silverstreak** · 07-07-2009

Well, zoomer wrote this;

YOu don't have to space things out but you would have to bend or cut some things on the rail. The top mount is already touching the blower.

I would recommend it.

You will need longer bolts. you can do it w/o on the 1/4" but it's not worth it as you can strip out the threads since not enough are engaged. YOu'll want 5mm longer than stock

ZZPerformance.com

Any write ups on modifying the fuel rail? I cant find any and I really dont wanna bend my chit

**silverstreak** · 07-07-2009

Originally Posted by minichopper6hp

http://www.grandprixforums.net/f49/p...cer-17421.html

i bet this price beats zzp's huh?

Yep! Good price

**minichopper6hp** · 07-07-2009

dont buy any shyt from zzp they suck. i wouldnt trust the 1/4" on stock rails, its not worth it. If you want some rails, bought to come out with a set that blows zzp's price outa the water.

**silverstreak** · 07-07-2009

Originally Posted by minichopper6hp

dont buy any shyt from zzp they suck. i wouldnt trust the 1/4" on stock rails, its not worth it. If you want some rails, bought to come out with a set that blows zzp's price outa the water.

Well when and how much? Pics?

**minichopper6hp** · 07-07-2009

Probally 3 weeks, to be on the safe side. We havnt set a final price, but they will beat out zzp's considerably and at the same if not better quality. Pics will come when they are finished.

**blueguy** · 07-08-2009

Ha. Just another one off ZZPerformance episode I tell ya. **** Zoomer and Turbo Tim, nothing but a couple people out to screw you in the end. Horrible craptastic customer service and bull**** answers like that is all you ever get. I talked to...Eric? I think on the phone once after trying to get through their line for about hmmm 6 days about my jacked up PCM tune after 4 attempts at fixing it. He kept asking me what it was doing wrong. I couldn't even begin to tell you how many times I told him it was flashing 0.0 on the DIC all the time in Programming Mode...he didn't know what I meant. Basically means he doesn't know how to tune. Hence why I preach not to buy PCM's from them in every thread when someone has them/wants to buy them.

Sorry to get off subject, but it makes me mad that they try to sell over priced crap to people that really does nothing compared to other mods for the price, like a U-Bend Delete, Shorty 3" Downpipe, or even the ported blower I told you about will get rid of as much heat as that "phenolic spacer" will trap in or help dissipate.

**minichopper6hp** · 07-08-2009

yep, but ill still make them for people who want them

**blueguy** · 07-08-2009

Originally Posted by minichopper6hp

yep, but ill still make them for people who want them

Never said don't make them. I just hate that the same thing can be had for more than half the price and work twice as good and people still get scammed by ZZP.