SLP vs Pacesetters

**David99GTP** · 02-21-2009

Question, I noticed a bit of price difference and design of these 2 headers. Is SLP that much better to be so much more $$.

**99prixgt** · 02-21-2009

Imo togs or slp's ftw

**David99GTP** · 02-21-2009

I figure SLPs must be the best with the reputation they have, especially with their products on LS1s performing well. Just wondered if it's a huge difference.

**TheOtherNick** · 02-21-2009

I think the ss autochrome ones are direct copies of the alps.they r about 300 dollars.

**blueguy** · 02-21-2009

You get what you pay for.

Pacesetter's are hard to seal...that is the ONLY problem I have had with mine...

**Bio248** · 02-21-2009

the SLPs will seal better, but perform about the same as cheapies.

**1998xGTP** · 02-22-2009

Originally Posted by Bio248

the SLPs will seal better, but perform about the same as cheapies.

X2 Most headers are great but it all comes down to the install, the money you saved by buying cheap might be spent on the install.

**Iron Indian** · 02-23-2009

TOGs, SLPs, or even S&S are the only ways to go IMO...

**Sinister Drag Designs** · 02-27-2009

I hate to beat a dead horse but we have installed almost every set of headers. Quite a few of those sets were pacesetters. PS's are a great header but they come with useless hardeware and gaskets. Everyone knows this. It should not be a reason to think about spending an extra $300+ on SLPs or togs. Once you spend the $80 or so on better gaskets and better clamps and o2 extension they work fine. Our install kit is still working perfect on quite a few cars.
You will hear people say just get used togs,SLPs,ZZP,S&S and so on.
Why not get used pacesetters.
FYI PS are one of the only headers on the market that read from both banks. SLPs and TOGs end up reading from one bank more then the other because of the bung location.S&S and ZZP headers read only one.

We run SLPs on some of our own cars and still favor PS's, even for installs
People will argue the primary size is to big, but they fixed that and now offer 1 5/8s as well.
I have a feeling the highest HP SC 3800 will be running pacesetters.

**mwalk00gtp** · 02-27-2009

^^^ is it possible to list all the gaskets and clamps needed to succesfully install pacesetters. i know i need some v clamps but i've seen people run 2 different kinds, and i'm not sure how many i need. they also say just to weld them. that made me feel a little better about my purchase of these headers. thanks

**blowfishRus6** · 02-27-2009

i have to agree. if you take your time with pacesetters and seal them up right, there great headers.

reptiles has the band clamps that you will need for the y pipes. then i would just get gm gaskets for the manifold gaskets. i just used my orginal gm gaskets and it worked fine.

**Sinister Drag Designs** · 02-27-2009

needed supplies are listed on the site
Sinister Drag Designs - Pacesetter Header Install Kit $60.00

**mwalk00gtp** · 02-27-2009

perfect! thanks!

**BADAZGTP** · 02-27-2009

Yeah Thanks Sinister. I just added that to my favorites so when I get around to ordering my pacesetters, I'll be able to find you quick. The one question I have, is the kit say's it comes with a o2 bung plug. What's with that? Still trying to learn some on doing things to these cars.

**gtphayes** · 02-27-2009

i think it means the o2 sensor extension. since it's an install kit and i didnt see that listed there.

**BADAZGTP** · 02-27-2009

I see. Thought maybe it was deleting the before cat o2 or something. Thanks.

**gtphayes** · 02-27-2009

well i could be wrong! just wanted to say my guess before he got on and answered

**BADAZGTP** · 02-27-2009

You could be right though. I haven't got to the headers yet, so haven't done any research on them. I know I'll probably go with the pacesetters, but that;s about it at this point.

**Sabrewings** · 02-27-2009

I think the Pacesetters have two O2 bungs on them. One is for the narrowband and one for the wideband. Unless you have a wideband, that one should be plugged.