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  1. #1 l67 injectors and tb on l36 
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    I am about to swap to an n/a 3.8. Was wondering how bad an l36 would run with l67 injectors and tb. Will be top swapping as soon as funds recover. All i lack for a full topswap is heads and related gaskets and bolts and pcm. Gonna try to use as many l67 parts as possible to make storing sc parts easier and save a lil $ at the jy. Already have the na harness and pcm ready to go. Swapped in a 4t65 2 weeks ago . Thanks
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    You'll have to tune for it
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    Swap everything at once. You're not gaining anything by putting L67 injectors and tb on now anyway...
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    Correct, you want to tune before running it long. I've started plenty of these motors on the wrong injectors/mafs/etc. But only for a moment to ensure the motor ran. The difference in flow will add a lot of extra fuel w/o a tune.

    As far as being able to do it with the proper tables in the tune....I'm currently running an L26 with L67 TB and injectors.
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    I dont really have the option of swapping all at once, $ or place to do it. Guess ill just keep the injectors stashed. Am gonna run the tb though
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    Swap everything at once. You're not gaining anything by putting L67 injectors and tb on now anyway...
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    C'mon seriously it's 6 injectors and a TB... It's not going to take much space.. Hell leave it in your trunk.
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    You havent seen my trunk lol. Anyway by using my own l67 tb i got the jy to throw in the ac compressor for free. Theyre throwing in the alt for using my own l67 balancer
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    C'mon seriously it's 6 injectors and a TB... It's not going to take much space.. He'll leave it in your trunk.
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    You'll need a tune to run the tb
    98 GTP modded 1.9's, sd headers, 3.4", zzp 1.0 230K miles scrapped.
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    Why would i have to progrom it for the tb? It bolts on and has has the same maf tps and iac. We installed one on my friends 98 gp gt without issues. I can understand needing a tune for the injectors though. Thanks
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    You'll need a tune to run the tb
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    Different tb means different maf tables for more air coming in
    98 GTP modded 1.9's, sd headers, 3.4", zzp 1.0 230K miles scrapped.
    04 Comp G zzp stb's, UMI ta's, Speedbuilt sways, bully flo heads, XP, zzp headers, fsic, thrasher shift kit, 60#, 2.6" corsa 2.5", Inferno hood
    01 gt z7 turbo tep trans zzp motor
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    Meaning your really not benefitting any for having it on there now and may be actually hurting performance. Just wait.
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    Hey Bill, could I ask why you run that throttle body on your L26? Is it so you can have an L26 with a cable actuated throttle body? Depending on the work required, I'd be interested in how you did it. I'm not a fan of the L26's drive by wire throttle, the small bit of lag is a little irritating in stop and go traffic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nik12937 View Post
    Hey Bill, could I ask why you run that throttle body on your L26? Is it so you can have an L26 with a cable actuated throttle body? Depending on the work required, I'd be interested in how you did it. I'm not a fan of the L26's drive by wire throttle, the small bit of lag is a little irritating in stop and go traffic.
    http://shop.zzperformance.com/store/...ter-Plate.aspx

    I wouldn't even begin to start swapping an 04+ to cable driven. You'd need the whole cable setup, pedal, etc. Then you would have the tuning problems that you could encounter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Explicit_Spade View Post
    http://shop.zzperformance.com/store/...ter-Plate.aspx

    I wouldn't even begin to start swapping an 04+ to cable driven. You'd need the whole cable setup, pedal, etc. Then you would have the tuning problems that you could encounter.
    That's why I'm interested in how Bill has that set up. The tuning I'm most confused about, everything else I believe I could accomplish given some time
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    Bill has a regal
    98 GTP modded 1.9's, sd headers, 3.4", zzp 1.0 230K miles scrapped.
    04 Comp G zzp stb's, UMI ta's, Speedbuilt sways, bully flo heads, XP, zzp headers, fsic, thrasher shift kit, 60#, 2.6" corsa 2.5", Inferno hood
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    And he's Bill

    So Bill can do things you can't do
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    Allow me, Bill is clearly running a L26 Motor in his 97-03 Car, He does not have a Cable drive throttle body on a 04+ Grand prix

    To run a L26 in place of a L36/L67 you need the TB adapter to convert it back to the Stock TB from the Series 2 motor.

    Lag on a 04 Fly by wire TB/ 2004+ Grand Prix?, First Ive heard of that. Saying you want to Convert a 04+ Car to cable TB is Absoloutely Dumb/Makes no sense

    Not to mention its Impossible to do, And again makes no sense to even talk about Etc. Work on Chroming your windshield with your free time Insted
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