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02-26-2011
Three month after replacement during LIM work, This elbow leaked again!
Is there any tips for correctly seating this dreaded elbow to the engine block?
By the way, the replacement elbows I used are from autozone help section, Dorman brand. I heard someone complained that these elbow is slightly thinner than the OEM parts, hence causing the leak. Anyone can comment on this?
Thanks.
Last edited by regalls; 02-27-2011 at 12:13 AM.
02-27-2011
I've used those before w/o issue, but I always put a small bead of RTV on it (on the edge in front of the o-ring) before installing it to make up for any imperfections in the LIM or tensioner. Never had one leak doing it that way. I use the gray GM sealant, but suppose the plain black RTV would work as well.
02-27-2011
I've had mixed experiences with the oreiley,auto zone brand. I'd get the gm ones, not that much more
04-30-2011
How much are those coolant elbows? I might need some too. Did you end up stopping the leak? Or you buy new ones?
Thanks
Brian
04-30-2011
this happened to me with my bonneville. the orange gaskets are heat activated and flatten out. when this happens they leak. pull your elbows back out and put some black o rings in place and the leak will stop. in fact, i would invest in a quality set of o-rings.
04-30-2011
The o-rings aren't orange though.
At least none of the ones I've seen in the past three years have been.
04-30-2011
the ones you buy at the auto store do indeed have orange and purple o-rings. any color other than black are heat activated o-rings. go to autozone and look at them.
05-01-2011
Sorry Matt, but he's right...One orange one purple
I actually double O-ring'ed them to prevent a leak. My original black ones weren't too bad so I saved them, rolled them further down the elbow so they were out of the way when I was installing, then once I got the elbows seated and in place and everything bolted back down I took a small screwdriver and pushed the black one snug in there as a second line of protection. Probably does nothing, but I don't really care!
Originally Posted by Wotgtp
05-01-2011
replacing them with black fixed my 04 bonneville.
05-02-2011
if u get them from anywhere it should work to tell the truth. make sure u put a good amount of rtv on it, and make sure it is set all the way in. i kno it can be kinda hard to tell sometimes
05-03-2011
I use the dormans all the time.
I've found that if you don't wiggle the upper elbow as you tighten the alt bracket/tensioner you can pinch the elbow and cause it over time to become more of a 45 degree angle than a 90. This will then leak.
Clean both holes with steel wool. Lube the rings with something and wiggle as you tighten the bolts.
05-04-2011
Your sig works for this.
05-04-2011
True
05-04-2011
lol
05-05-2011
not sure what brand elbows came with my new duralast tensioner, but they crapped out after about 2 years (and now the pulley on it is getting loud). new gm ones from the dealership was a bit under $20 for the pair
05-05-2011
spit fixes a lot of things. kinda like duct tape.
05-05-2011
i think it depends on how hot your engine runs as well. my bonneville runs really hot and they crapped out after 60k.
my gp gt runs really cold and they were still fine when i replaced them at 210k
05-06-2011
It's not actually temp. It's pressure. If the tensioner is tightened and the top elbow doesn't wiggle freely..it's gonna become less than a 90* angle soon enough. 160-180F is enough to allow it to bend.
If it's wigglin free...life should be good... just like non-restrictive underwear
05-06-2011
on my bonneville they actually crumbled apart at the gap where the o-ring sits. it wasnt an o-ring failure, but the elbow itself disintegrated.
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