so i am buying msd coilpacks for my car and wonder if its a good idea??
as well as the K&N Intake kit
pros? cons?? THANKS!
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12-30-2010
so i am buying msd coilpacks for my car and wonder if its a good idea??
as well as the K&N Intake kit
pros? cons?? THANKS!
12-30-2010
No...neither are useful OR worth the money.
Stock coils are way better than MSD's.
Make your own intake...or, read this thread....
http://www.grandprixforums.net/safel...car-17482.html
12-30-2010
Stick with the stock coils. If you can find a K&N for cheap then get it. I picked up mine used from another member.
12-30-2010
well im pretty sure my one of my coil packs is ****ed so im preplacing all of them and doing HIDs and intake while im at it...
12-30-2010
I was planning on doing the same if mine go, cause i have a friend w/ a 3800 firebird whose coils went and he got the MSD's and got more mid-range power, just figured it'd be the same for me?
12-30-2010
LOL mid range power?
No.
Stock coils have more power output than MSD's. Proven. You want your car to run better? Get Autolite 606 spark plugs and get better WIRES, like MSD's or PRJ's. Stock coils are used on most of the fastest WBodys around...why? Because they are proven to not fail...just go grab a new set from Autozone OR... Morad Parts Company - 3800 Motors, Transaxles, & Stock Parts
12-30-2010
IF you really want to hear the truth..
I got MSD coils as a gift, and they ****ing suck ass. All 3 have been replaced, since they were all manufacturing defects.
One literally split between the terminals, and was sparking all over the place.
The other two, had the contacts break off...
They add no power. If you want yours red, get some and spray them red.
They are a waste of money, and for an intake, dont waste your money, make your own.
Also, listen to these people telling you advice, most have been through a motor, or 3....
and they know what works/doesnt.
Your $350 dollars would be much better spent on other things..
12-30-2010
duly noted, thanks again guys
12-31-2010
If you are running an L36, you could try and snag a good set of used L67 coils. Not much difference, but a tad better throttle response.
The coils used on the L36 are also the same exact part number used on my '94 Grand Am. GM has used those coils a LOT. I have known them to rarely fail. From my experience, 90% of the time people think they fail, they are wrong and it was a different failure. I replaced two coils in many of the 3100/3400 engines I've worked on.
If you do some searching, I believe somewhere on the Internet I read someone posting a "how to" on resistance checking to see if a coil went bad.
01-03-2011
thanks guys, did the HIDS, looks amazing and the intake sounds pretty wicked... will see about getting some stock coil packs... i have a random misfire??? and im just trying to find how to fix it so my car tuns top notch... the plugs and wires are all brand new.... any suggestions for that? THANKS!
01-03-2011
Probably your coil packs. Replace them with stock
01-03-2011
I would start with the coils, then ignition module itself. A bad coil will generally be the 2 cylinders that are matched to it. ignition module completely random cylinders.
01-15-2011
okay thanks
01-16-2011
so everybody here that bought the msd packs, did you guys buy just the packs?
01-16-2011
Originally Posted by bluegtp91
I've read the link you posted and I was curious. When you DIY the CAI do you leave the ECM in the the stock air box and just put the cone filter on the rubber boot off the TB or how would you go about it on a N/A engine.
01-16-2011
you can zip tie it down on the inner fenderwell where the airbox was, or buy the box/holder tray they make for em. mine is just zip tied down and its fine
01-16-2011
mine just lays there
http://www.streetfire.net/video/2001...ynp_208097.htm
01-16-2011
yeah that too lol
01-16-2011
Who makes the AM trays for the ECM? Also was the ecm put there in the stock box for cooling purposes? I worry bout under hood heat being a problem for the delicate module to be heat soaked? With the 180* thermostat I plan on doing like alot you have will the heat still be a problem? If I just go the zip tie route would it be ok if I used exhaust wrap to make sure the ECM doesn't get heat soaked? Sorry for all the Q's just trying to learn as I'm super anal about my rides lol
01-17-2011
umm you can get the tray through zzp, wbody store and 3800 performance. or make your own out of sheet metal or your imagination haha but no just zip tieing it wont make it prone to a alot of heat. mines just fine lol now between the airbox and the tb, do you mean the sensor on the tube?
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