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    There are 2 guides here. The first was borrowed from GPONA written by Nitemare_05GP, The second is from atthetipwebs.com Both methods should be the same for any 2004-2008 Grand Prix Naturally Aspirated or Supercharged. If any variance in year or trim is found, let me know and I'll edit accordingly.



    Guide 1:

    "HUD"- Head-Up Display, capable of projecting 18 different functions onto the windshield including audio system information, speed, compass, outside air temperature, PRNDL, "Stealth" mode, intermediate gear positions, performance upshift light, high beam indicator, and warning lights such as head lights suggested. 2005 cars with Nav systems the HUD will display driving directions. -courtesy of Flip and Bleen


    Owner's Manual HUD info:


    HUD components:

    HUD dash trim piece (GM P/N: 10354107), HUD Display unit (GM P/N: 10387483), HUD Wiring Harness (GM P/N: still searching)


    HUD adjustment switch (GM P/N: 10438819)


    Compass Module (GM P/N: 15236913), Outside Air Temperature Sensor (GM P/N: still searching)


    Tools needed/reccomended:

    Flathead screwdriver (to remove the upper dash trim piece which is held in by plastic clips)
    utility knife or razor blade (for precision while cutting the dash padding)
    Dremel or some sort of rotary too with a QUALITY cutting wheel (to cut through the hard plastic dash under the dash padding)
    Soldering tool or electrical tape (to conceal exposed, spliced wires)
    18/5 (18 gauge/5 wire) Thermostat wire to wire the HUD to the adjustment switch (it's color coded and keeps eveything bundled together neatly)
    18/3 (18 gauge/3 wire) Thermostat wire to tap into the DIC if you choose to go that route rather than tap into the IP

    Electrical Wiring
    -I would strongly suggest taking care of the wiring first, especially if you're electrically retarded like me. I was lucky enough to obtain a wiring harness for the HUD and adjustment switch, so fortunately it was all just plug n' play after I wired everything together correctly. If you don't have a wiring harness, then definitely wire everything together first. One, to avoid any mishaps later in the project and two, you're obviously not going to able to fit your hands inside the dash to do the wiring unless you have the whole dash taken out of the interior of the vehicle. :mrgreen:
    -The wiring harness will have multiple plastic connectors or "clips" that the wires lead to, kind of like a plug at the end of an electrical cord. But instead of one fat cord, in this instance you will see many tiny electrical wires leading to a clip. Each one of these clips or plugs will have eight wires leading to it, all of which are color coded to represent the information that each individual wire sends to/from the vehicle. Duane 9586 came up with a good representation, shown below:

    Top of one of these "clips"
    1 2 3 4
    5 6 7 8

    HUD harness
    Wire # color what is it?
    1-brown/yellow-data
    2-yellow-up control
    3-brown-down control
    4-black/white-ground
    5-white-illumination
    6-orange-12V
    7-brown-switch signal
    8-white-low referance

    Switch harness
    Wire # color what is it?
    1-grey-switch illumination
    2-black-ground
    3-white-low referance
    4-brown-down control
    5-brown switch signal
    6-white-illumination
    7-yellow-up control
    8-blank

    "As you can hopefully see the HUD and switch harnesses share 5 wires minus the ground wire. These 5 (low referance, down and up controls, switch signal, and illumination) are the wires that will be directly hooked up. The two remaining wires on the switch (switch illumination and ground) I simply tapped into the traction control wires to provide the ground and red illumination. [NOTE: My GP did NOT come with Traction Control, so I will come back to this... -Nitemare_05GP]

    The remaining 3 on the HUD harness (12v, ground, and data) I tapped into the IP cluster. You could use the DIC also but the IP is right there and made a logical choice.

    (I have to check the following when I get home to make sure I have the correct colors matched up)
    The brown/white DATA wire goes with the gray IP (Instrument Panel info) wire
    The black ground remains the same color along with the orange 12v." -courtesy of duane9586

    Scott(chethammer) has informed me that when Ryan did the HUD install he had the dash nearly taken apart so it was much easier for him to access the wiring in the IP area than it would be for me. So he advised me to tap into the wiring harness for the DIC, which recieves the same information as the IP. I will update this portion of the write-up as I do my own version of the HUD install, using the DIC wiring harness.

    Dash Modification
    Step 1: Take off both A pillar covers (L). Start at the top and pull towards the center of the car. They're held in by clips, so no tools required.

    Step 2: "Take off the dash trim piece (H), commonly referred to as a 'cowl.' Start by the driver's side and work it out. Again, it's held in by clips, so just pull straight up (as possible). I had to work from both sides of the car, pulling a couple of clips at a time until everything released. There is a light sensor (J) and a theft-device LED (I) attached to the cowl. Scott recommended that I disassemble the units but, in my case, twisting the body counterclockwise from the bottom released the entire unit in both cases. A quarter turn was all it took, then the cowl was out. Pretty easy." -courtesy of unstable
    This "cowl" is removed a) to prepare the area of the dash where the HUD will be housed in for cutting and b)to make room for the new HUD style cowl which you will lay down on top of the dash as template for cutting the dash.

    Step 3: It is easiest to remove the clips from the new HUD dash piece before you set it on top of the dash to trace around the outer edges of it. This is is the part where you have be PRECISE: you don't want to cut too wide of a hole in your dash because you traced too wide of a line around the HUD trim piece. Tape off about a 1/4 inch inside your line on all three sides to prevent any mishaps. You only have one chance, really, and after you start cutting into your dash there's no going back so you want to be sure to do it right the first time. You can use chalk or dry erase marker, as long as it's something that easily seen and easily removable.

    -pics courtesy of Ryan

    Before proceeding any further, it is HIGHLY recommended that you protect your windshield with duct tape or blanket, or something. Or tape cardboard up against your windshield. The area between the windshield and the dash where you will be cutting is a tight space and it would be easy to nick the glass and create a nice lil scar. "You WILL cut all the way back to the firewall near the windshield and then across. The HUD goes all the way back to the back. It doesn't look like it will but it does." As you can see in the picture below
    -photo courtesy of Ryan
    Step 4:
    Quote Originally Posted by W-Body Store
    Remember, GM engineers didn't take into account your need for speed.
    Daily Driver: 06 Grand Prix GT / 9.4:1 CR / IS3 Heads / Ported Gen V / ZZP Headers / HPT Pro / Pulleys: 4.25, 3.8, 3.5, 3.4, 3.2, 3.0, 2.9, 2.7
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    Guide 2
    HUD - Heads Up Display for Pontiac Grand Prix 2004 Repair Instructions

    These instructions are designed to guide you through the step by step process of repairing a HUD (Heads Up Display) in a 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix car. These instructions may also assist with the HUD display repair on similar cars as well, but are specific to the Grand Prix. Allow 3 hours for the repair, but it can be done in 2 hours.

    The situation with the HUD in the instruction below was that the display still worked but was out of alignment due to a problem with one of the mirror alignment because a spring had pulled through a bracket. You can verify if you have the same or similar problem by looking through the windshield at the display. When you look at the display through the windshield, one the driver side of the display you can see a spring dangling loose at the bottom connection. This spring actually keeps the mirror in place for the alignment adjustment motor. When the spring comes loose the mirror drops and the image is not displayed in the right position. I believe it will make the information shine at the very top of the windshield.

    So, what I did was what someone else had done. I removed the HUD, opened it up, removed the bracket, drilled a small hole near the area the bracket was broken in, put everything back together and now it works like new again. If you do not want to repair it, you can have it replaced or replace it yourself. I believe the part is something like $385. If you hire the work out at the dealer, the labor would be about $350. So, all together it could cost between $700 and $800 to replace. If you replace it yourself it would cost you around $400. This repair cost me nothing but TIME because I had all the tools. If you do not feel comfortable doing the repair, print these instructions off and have your mechanic do it for you.

    I try to detail all of the instructions I do to make them so a 10 year old could follow them. I think this process was a little harder so I would not ask anyone younger than 16 to do it. If you find them useful and they help you get your HUD back in order, please take a few minutes and express your appreciation by leaving me a TIP/DONATION in my PayPal account (any amount would be appreciated, $20 would be great).

    Tools Needed:

    Drill
    1/16" small drill bit
    Small screw drive with a socket end on it
    9/32" socket, small 1/4 size
    #10 metric socket
    Ratchet
    Small ratchet extension
    Long ratchet extension
    Cross tip (Phillips) screw driver, #2
    Flat tip screw driver, #2
    Small flash light
    Thin leather cloves (any gloves will do)
    Stuff For Cleaning
    Eyeglass cleaner
    Eyeglass cleaning cloth
    Paint brush



    Instructions: Please read the ENTIRE step before you perform it.

    Park the car where it can site for a few hours, disconnect the negative battery cable. This will reduce the chances of having something short out.
    NOTE: Disconnecting the battery cable can erase information stored in the trip computer so you may want to get any information out of there that you want.
    Remove the ring that is around the ignition key hole. You can carefully pry around it with the flat tip screw driver. It will slide out.

    Remove the stereo/center control facing. It goes from the top of the dash, around the stereo & a/c controls, all the way down to the sifter area. This entire piece just pulls off. I started on the passenger side of it and pulled the clips loose until it was free from the dash.
    NOTE: It has a wire connection near the top that connects to the information display. You will have to unfasten that connection to get it totally out of the way.

    Disconnect the wire from the center control facing and place it out of the way.
    Remove the side dash panel that is between the door and the left side of the dash. It just pulls off, has 3 clips.

    Un-secure the OBD-II connector. Look under the dash near the center area of the drivers side, you will see the OBD-II connector. It has a clip securing it in place. Take the clip loose and push the connector back a little so you can get the screw above it out.

    Remove the knee panel (lower dash panel). Remove the 2 screws at the bottom and 1 on the left side. Once the 3 screws are out, you can pull it away from the dash. It has a few guides at the top that hold the top in place.

    Remove the panel that goes around the instrument cluster. It does not have any screws holding it in place, just 3 clips at the top. I pulled at the top to get it loose, removed the wire that connected the light dimmer, then lowered the steering wheel and lifted the panel away from the dash.
    NOTE: Be careful not to break the wires that connects to the dimmer knob.

    Remove the instrument cluster. It has 4 screws that hold it in place. Remove the screws, pull it a little away from the dash, un-fasten the wire connector that connects to the cluster, then lift it away from the dash.
    NOTE: Be careful not to break the wires that connect to the instrument cluster.

    Remove the side windshield pillar trim pieces/covers. Pull the door seal away a little to get your finger behind the cover, then simply pull it away from the top. It has 1 clip (near the top) and a band strap (in the middle) connecting it. After you get the clip loose, pull the band fastener out of the pillar frame, then bull the cover back away from the windshield. It will come out pretty easy.

    Remove the most forward part of the dash, the piece that covers the HUD and goes all the way across the dash at it's most forward edge. This is the hardest part of the entire process. It has several clips that go across and the rear edge of it (the edge closet to you) is kind of sharp. I actually used some leather gloves to protect my hands. NOTE: Be careful not to break the wires that connect to the alarm indicator and light sensor. Working from one side to the other, lift the trip/dash piece up to the windshield to free the clips. Once the clips are free, un-fasten the wire that connects to the alarm indicator, it turns 1/4 turn and will come out pretty easy. The light sensor will also come out with 1/4 turn, if not un-fasten the wires that connect to the light sensor. There is a clip on the back side of it that needs to be released to get the wires un-plugged (I actually could not un-plug the wire and ended up pulling the sensor apart. It went back together when I put everything back but it was a pain). Once you have those 2 wires loose, lift the panel out of the car. You will have to pull on it a little because it has a good rubber gasket/seal on the forward edge of it to stop things from going behind your dash.

    Remove the HUD. The HUD is held in place by 1 screw, 2 bolts and the electrical connector. Remove the bolts on either side of the HUD, remove the screw from the area behind the instrument panel, un-fasten the wire connectors on the side (passenger side of the HUD), then lift the HUD out of the dash. I had to slide it out towards the passenger side. Once out, I took it to my work bench (kitchen counter top :-).

    Take the HUD apart. It has 5 Phillip screws holding it together.
    NOTE: Once inside, try not to get your finger prints on the inside glass or mirrors.

    Remove the light or sensor that connects the top to the bottom. Do not want to break any wires while it is apart.
    Remove the forward mirror. The one that tilts and has the broken spring connected to the left side of it. I think there is a screw on the right side, once I remove the screw I lifted the right edge out then the left. NOTE: Watch how this is in because if you do not put it back right your display will not work properly.

    Remove the left side bracket. You will need to remove the bracket to drill the hole in it. You have to remove the 2 screws that hold the motor in place to get the bracket out.

    Drill a hole in the bracket. I drilled the hole just right of where the spring pulled through the plastic (see photo). I guess someone could use epoxy of something to fix the split but why chance it.

    Install the spring. You can do it now or after you put the mirror back in.
    Install the bracket and secure the adjustment motor back in place.
    Install the mirror. You can install the spring now if you have not already done so. If you dirtied the mirror, use a lint free cloth to clean it. I use eyeglass cleaner stuff to clean it (spray & cloth).

    NOTE: Put everything back together in the reverse order. You should clean/dust everything as you put it back together. Cars can look like new when you clean & dust things that you normally can not reach when it is together.
    Quote Originally Posted by W-Body Store
    Remember, GM engineers didn't take into account your need for speed.
    Daily Driver: 06 Grand Prix GT / 9.4:1 CR / IS3 Heads / Ported Gen V / ZZP Headers / HPT Pro / Pulleys: 4.25, 3.8, 3.5, 3.4, 3.2, 3.0, 2.9, 2.7
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    Doing this RITE MEOW!!!
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    this is so helpfull i was wondering can you switch a hud from a gtp to a gt that doesnt have one and just switch all the dash trim and i know theres trip computer and the control panel for the hud unit were do those go and would you have to do alot of re wiring wiring isnt a big concern
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    My base model disnt have it. Just the wiring. In installed HUD/trim and button/console. No problems. I think I put it in my member thread. Click link in my sig.
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    click the link were?
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    thanks
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    hey would you hapen to know what page it is you seem to have alot of stuff going through it to find the hud is kinda long lol
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    okay figured it out and found the right page i dont have the wire system for it so now what? can i hard wire it or do i need to get the wiring harness for it and replace my current harness with the new one
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    Used this a while back for the spring repair. Good info
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    okay i went back and looked i do have the plug for a hud unit its 10 wires long and flat madmonkey you have two different pics one looks identical to mine the other was 2 high and 4 long for an 8 pronged plug which is for the hud unit
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    Gonna bump this up to the top because I'm in the process of installing a HUD in to my 04 GT.

    Does anyone have a photo of where their HUD wiring was taped at? I haven't pulled the IP out yet, but I do have the hole cut in the dash, and I don't see any extra harness kicking around back there.

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    No hole needed in back. Just dash.
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    Finally got the install finished up!

    The alignment is a bit off (Sits too far to the left) but I think that's because I didn't have any bolts to attach it, just zip tied it into place. I'll be fixing that as soon as I make it up to my shop to pickup the fasteners for it.



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    I found a pigtail under the dash of my GT1, right next to the ALDL; it's taped across the front and looks like it also has a block-off plate on it. Anyone know what that bit is?
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    Just wanted to add that the instructions work great. I fixed mine in about an hour.

    I used a screw on mine.


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    I tied some heavy duty string around the alarm light and sensor on the dash and tied them to the shifter so they couldn't fall into the dash, I can't imagine the PITA it'd be to get them back out if they fell. Oh, and those cowl panels get extremely brittle, mine came into several different pieces on its way out. I had one ordered from eBay already anyway, it was only about $80

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    "As you can hopefully see the HUD and switch harnesses share 5 wires minus the ground wire. These 5 (low referance, down and up controls, switch signal, and illumination) are the wires that will be directly hooked up. The two remaining wires on the switch (switch illumination and ground) I simply tapped into the traction control wires to provide the ground and red illumination. [NOTE: My GP did NOT come with Traction Control, so I will come back to this...




    So I can run wire behind the radio cut those five from the control plug and wire them directly together?
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    It's alive!!!!!!
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