Sorry for hijacking your thread quickster... I just realized we kinda went off of your subject. I'll continue this in my other thread
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Sorry for hijacking your thread quickster... I just realized we kinda went off of your subject. I'll continue this in my other thread
No apology necessary ls1freek. We're all in this together. A little common sense on my part would go a long way. I over-think things sometimes.
One last question. Is it necessary to rotate the engine forward to change the back plugs? Or has anyone successfully changed them without doing so? (Grand Prix GT 3800 Series 3)
I change mine without rocking the engine forward all the time. They can be reached easier, however, if you rock the engine forward.
If you still have engine brackets you might be better off tilting.
If you've left some off then its pretty easy.
3" extension and go to town.
Sorry matt5112, not following what you are saying. Are you referring to the two front torque struts?
no, there are many brackets littered all around the engine that hold things on, or are for pulling the motor.
I haven't had any of them on in so long i couldnt tell you if they affect doing the spark plugs, and by how much.
One of them is for holding on the engine cover, the others are for pulling the motor with. I removed all of mine when I put headers on.
I just changed my plugs out last night. Took me maybe 10 minutes from start to finish without moving the motor forward, but yours will take quite a bit longer due to having to force the original spark plug boots off of the plugs.
Chances are you will ruin at least one plug wire, so have a new set ready to go in. Buy a tube of dielectric grease and a tube of antiseize as well, you will thank me later for that one
Edit: You may also want to have a set of pliers ready as well. I found it easier to lightly grip the metal heat shroud around the plug wire boot with pliers, then grabbing the pliers and pulling straight out with them. You will need to try and twist the boots first to break the hold they have on the plugs, that helps quite a bit. I also reuse the heat shrouds as well, just slide them off the boot and put them on the new ones.
Last edited by starscream5000; 04-05-2011 at 07:55 AM.
Thanks for the explanation and advice matt5112 and starscream5000. I appreciate it, I'm new to these Pontiacs.
I hear ya on the anti-sieze, I always use it. Never used the dielectric grease though. Where do you place the grease? It doesn't interfere with the connection between the boot and the plug, placing a film between the two?
Is a spark plug pliers necessary or helpful for getting the boots loose? Never had to use them on other cars.
Last edited by quickster; 04-05-2011 at 10:20 AM. Reason: left something out
Dielectric grease actually will help with the electrical contact and will prevent corrosion, and will also prevent the boot from fusing to the plug like your current ones are.
I just use regular pliers to grip the boot of the plug, is it needed? No, but it's easier than squeezing as hard as you can and hoping your hand doesn't slip off and you bang up your knuckles. The pliers will give you more leverage as well and you will need it to get those plug boots off for the first time.
Ok, Thanks.
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